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<blockquote data-quote="RamblinRed" data-source="post: 864294" data-attributes="member: 1776"><p>If you look at is rationally, everything we are seeing in recruiting says we are recruiting in the middle of the pack in the ACC.</p><p>Johnson's tweet is helpful. Another data point is 247sports where the avg player rating for GT's overall ranking (46 - which includes both HS and transfers) is 42nd overall.</p><p>The two items to keep in mind are this.</p><p>First there are only 65 teams in P5 (plus a handful of others that should likely be included as competitors), so a 32nd or 42nd rating in average stars is just middle of the pack.</p><p>More importantly, if your avg is 3.2 or 86.52 and another school is 3.18 or 86.47 or 3.23 or 86.61- is it really reasonable to say you have out recruited them. I just don't see recruiting as being that scientific. I believe it is more realistic to look at it in ranges.</p><p></p><p>Looking at this year's recruiting. There are 4 ACC schools that clearly are seen as having significantly out recruited the others Clemson, FSU, Miami and UNC. Their overall ranking and avg ratings are much higher than all the others. Then there are 7 schools that I would argue have all basically recruited in the same range and have roughly equivalent talent coming in. Finally there are 3 others that lagged this year (though the avg for those 3 are closer to the middle 7 than the middle 7 are to the top 4).</p><p></p><p>At the end of the day I don't believe GT is going to win ACC division titles by 'out talenting' its opponents. It is going to win division titles by outperforming them in player development and game day prep/coaching. GT has enough raw talent to be a .500 team, it doesn't have enough talent to be more than that without being better in other areas.</p><p></p><p>On paper the incoming class (including HS players and transfers) is solid - nothing more, nothing less. </p><p>I'm hoping that our young players from the last couple of classes start to play out this year. If GT is to improve that is likely where it comes from. I think GT is likely to see a net negative this season from the portal - the proven production leaving is greater than the proven production coming in (no one coming in has the proven production of Gibbs, Ivey or Adonicas Sanders).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RamblinRed, post: 864294, member: 1776"] If you look at is rationally, everything we are seeing in recruiting says we are recruiting in the middle of the pack in the ACC. Johnson's tweet is helpful. Another data point is 247sports where the avg player rating for GT's overall ranking (46 - which includes both HS and transfers) is 42nd overall. The two items to keep in mind are this. First there are only 65 teams in P5 (plus a handful of others that should likely be included as competitors), so a 32nd or 42nd rating in average stars is just middle of the pack. More importantly, if your avg is 3.2 or 86.52 and another school is 3.18 or 86.47 or 3.23 or 86.61- is it really reasonable to say you have out recruited them. I just don't see recruiting as being that scientific. I believe it is more realistic to look at it in ranges. Looking at this year's recruiting. There are 4 ACC schools that clearly are seen as having significantly out recruited the others Clemson, FSU, Miami and UNC. Their overall ranking and avg ratings are much higher than all the others. Then there are 7 schools that I would argue have all basically recruited in the same range and have roughly equivalent talent coming in. Finally there are 3 others that lagged this year (though the avg for those 3 are closer to the middle 7 than the middle 7 are to the top 4). At the end of the day I don't believe GT is going to win ACC division titles by 'out talenting' its opponents. It is going to win division titles by outperforming them in player development and game day prep/coaching. GT has enough raw talent to be a .500 team, it doesn't have enough talent to be more than that without being better in other areas. On paper the incoming class (including HS players and transfers) is solid - nothing more, nothing less. I'm hoping that our young players from the last couple of classes start to play out this year. If GT is to improve that is likely where it comes from. I think GT is likely to see a net negative this season from the portal - the proven production leaving is greater than the proven production coming in (no one coming in has the proven production of Gibbs, Ivey or Adonicas Sanders). [/QUOTE]
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