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<blockquote data-quote="RonJohn" data-source="post: 346437" data-attributes="member: 2426"><p>I haven't seen any measurable goals presented on behalf of people who are protesting.</p><p></p><p>I have attempted to explain what I think, but don't believe I have done a good job yet. In general it seems to me that: People who are offended don't want to discuss any issues the protesters have until the protesters present themselves in a non-offensive discussion about issues. They also don't know exactly what the discussion would be about. People who are protesting believe that the people who are offended are just racists and therefore don't want to discuss the protest as being offensive to them. I know I am being overly broad in those statements, but I don't think we are far from that. Neither side will listen to the actual concerns of the other because they are locked into discussing their concern first.</p><p></p><p>On top of that, the general NFL protests this past weekend in my opinion watered down the actions of those who were actually protesting. The president's statements in my opinion weren't for any constructive reason, they were one-line rallying cries to an amenable group. The NFL's response seemed to be that they would do something because the president said something. They were "unified" because they locked arms, but I haven't heard what exactly they were unified in. Maybe they were unified in the belief that they aren't all SOBs? I think the media coverage now is of the NFL vs Trump. It seems to me that the NFL took something that was messy and not well defined, and turned it into something that is bigger, messier, and even less defined.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RonJohn, post: 346437, member: 2426"] I haven't seen any measurable goals presented on behalf of people who are protesting. I have attempted to explain what I think, but don't believe I have done a good job yet. In general it seems to me that: People who are offended don't want to discuss any issues the protesters have until the protesters present themselves in a non-offensive discussion about issues. They also don't know exactly what the discussion would be about. People who are protesting believe that the people who are offended are just racists and therefore don't want to discuss the protest as being offensive to them. I know I am being overly broad in those statements, but I don't think we are far from that. Neither side will listen to the actual concerns of the other because they are locked into discussing their concern first. On top of that, the general NFL protests this past weekend in my opinion watered down the actions of those who were actually protesting. The president's statements in my opinion weren't for any constructive reason, they were one-line rallying cries to an amenable group. The NFL's response seemed to be that they would do something because the president said something. They were "unified" because they locked arms, but I haven't heard what exactly they were unified in. Maybe they were unified in the belief that they aren't all SOBs? I think the media coverage now is of the NFL vs Trump. It seems to me that the NFL took something that was messy and not well defined, and turned it into something that is bigger, messier, and even less defined. [/QUOTE]
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