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<blockquote data-quote="MWBATL" data-source="post: 345786" data-attributes="member: 944"><p>I just found this thread and have a few comments.</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I am surprised that no one has made the comparison between these anthem protests and confederate flag flying. My own take on the confederate flag is that while people should have a right to fly it (First Amendment and all that), it is offensive to a segment of our society whom I consider important and worth listening to, and therefore I won't fly one or support flying one because all it does is divide us. (NB-I do think that some or many who support the confederate flag are trying to say they support local rights over federalism, but since it means something totally different historically, I agree with those who oppose it).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Those who which to protest during the anthem fall into exactly the same camp, imho. Do they have the right to do so? No question. Is it hateful and divisive (NO MATTER HOW THEY INTEND IT?), yes absolutely.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Is the NFL being completely inconsistent about its rules to bend over backwards and avoid pissing off their largest labor segment? Yup. No patches allowed on the Cowboys uniform after 5 police officers were killed by a BLM supporter, no allowance for 9/11 shoes, end zone celebrations can be censored...but this si allowed. The NFL is being practical, but certainly can be criticized for its inconsistency.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">As (I think) everyone has said, the players have their rights, the NFL is a private organization and they have their rights, and the ticket buying and TV watching public have their rights. I think this argument is really just another one about the feeling (especially among conservatives) that we live in an era where reverse discrimination is completely acceptable and divisive comments are OK as long as they come from one wing of society/politics. But not for the other. Not trying to argue whether this is true or not, but I do think there is a clear perception that things have gone a little too far and there is a backlash against some of the excesses of progressivism. This is actually a pretty normal political response in virtually any society.</li> </ol><p>So, the flag girl is fine by me AS LONG AS SHE WOULD ALSO defend the right of another flag girl waving a confederate flag in front of her. Would she? I sincerely doubt it. Would most of those on here supporting here fight to defend the right of another girl to wave a confederate flag? I doubt it.</p><p></p><p>Maybe I'm wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MWBATL, post: 345786, member: 944"] I just found this thread and have a few comments. [LIST=1] [*]I am surprised that no one has made the comparison between these anthem protests and confederate flag flying. My own take on the confederate flag is that while people should have a right to fly it (First Amendment and all that), it is offensive to a segment of our society whom I consider important and worth listening to, and therefore I won't fly one or support flying one because all it does is divide us. (NB-I do think that some or many who support the confederate flag are trying to say they support local rights over federalism, but since it means something totally different historically, I agree with those who oppose it). [*]Those who which to protest during the anthem fall into exactly the same camp, imho. Do they have the right to do so? No question. Is it hateful and divisive (NO MATTER HOW THEY INTEND IT?), yes absolutely. [*]Is the NFL being completely inconsistent about its rules to bend over backwards and avoid pissing off their largest labor segment? Yup. No patches allowed on the Cowboys uniform after 5 police officers were killed by a BLM supporter, no allowance for 9/11 shoes, end zone celebrations can be censored...but this si allowed. The NFL is being practical, but certainly can be criticized for its inconsistency. [*]As (I think) everyone has said, the players have their rights, the NFL is a private organization and they have their rights, and the ticket buying and TV watching public have their rights. I think this argument is really just another one about the feeling (especially among conservatives) that we live in an era where reverse discrimination is completely acceptable and divisive comments are OK as long as they come from one wing of society/politics. But not for the other. Not trying to argue whether this is true or not, but I do think there is a clear perception that things have gone a little too far and there is a backlash against some of the excesses of progressivism. This is actually a pretty normal political response in virtually any society. [/LIST] So, the flag girl is fine by me AS LONG AS SHE WOULD ALSO defend the right of another flag girl waving a confederate flag in front of her. Would she? I sincerely doubt it. Would most of those on here supporting here fight to defend the right of another girl to wave a confederate flag? I doubt it. Maybe I'm wrong. [/QUOTE]
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