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<blockquote data-quote="Lotta Booze" data-source="post: 564885" data-attributes="member: 4471"><p>I appreciate that and I appreciate that this thread has been a reasonable discussion. I may throw out a barb here and there regarding some conservative talking points but I do realize that there's just about every size, shape, and type of conservative. The same with liberal/moderate/apathetic/agnostic/whateverelse type of person. </p><p></p><p>I try to look at things like healthcare for their cost, like y'all do I'm sure, but probably in a different way. The heartburn with healthcare for everyone is the cost. In my mind we're all paying the cost right now, it's not just a future what-if. The system we have is not working that well for the people who do have insurance and all the people who don't have insurance are still costing the system money. What happens when someone without insurance goes to the emergency room and they can't pay? The hospital just eats the cost. Causing them to have to overcharge and take the money where they can get it to make up for those losses. And there is no stopping those costs from happening as long as people aren't insured out there. You could stop it by changing the law that mandates emergency rooms to take care of the people who come in but I'm not voting for that dystopian future. </p><p></p><p>There are hundreds of thousands of people who go bankrupt every year because of medical costs. And many of them DO have insurance and think that they are covered. They think they've done everything right and they still get thrown to the woodchipper of a system we have currently. That's messed up. And with every bankruptcy that's another unpaid bill we're all paying for.</p><p></p><p>I do a lot of cost projecting for my job and without treating this problem it feels like we're always going over budget on a line item and never adjusting our projections to cover that cost. And I certainly don't want taxes to be too overbearing but I understand there is a cost for my safety and residence in this country and a lot of opportunities that come with it. And part of that cost I'll pay is not living in a society that would leave its dead in the streets because they didn't have a way to pay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lotta Booze, post: 564885, member: 4471"] I appreciate that and I appreciate that this thread has been a reasonable discussion. I may throw out a barb here and there regarding some conservative talking points but I do realize that there's just about every size, shape, and type of conservative. The same with liberal/moderate/apathetic/agnostic/whateverelse type of person. I try to look at things like healthcare for their cost, like y'all do I'm sure, but probably in a different way. The heartburn with healthcare for everyone is the cost. In my mind we're all paying the cost right now, it's not just a future what-if. The system we have is not working that well for the people who do have insurance and all the people who don't have insurance are still costing the system money. What happens when someone without insurance goes to the emergency room and they can't pay? The hospital just eats the cost. Causing them to have to overcharge and take the money where they can get it to make up for those losses. And there is no stopping those costs from happening as long as people aren't insured out there. You could stop it by changing the law that mandates emergency rooms to take care of the people who come in but I'm not voting for that dystopian future. There are hundreds of thousands of people who go bankrupt every year because of medical costs. And many of them DO have insurance and think that they are covered. They think they've done everything right and they still get thrown to the woodchipper of a system we have currently. That's messed up. And with every bankruptcy that's another unpaid bill we're all paying for. I do a lot of cost projecting for my job and without treating this problem it feels like we're always going over budget on a line item and never adjusting our projections to cover that cost. And I certainly don't want taxes to be too overbearing but I understand there is a cost for my safety and residence in this country and a lot of opportunities that come with it. And part of that cost I'll pay is not living in a society that would leave its dead in the streets because they didn't have a way to pay. [/QUOTE]
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