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<blockquote data-quote="LibertyTurns" data-source="post: 564789" data-attributes="member: 789"><p>First off, I want to congratulate [USER=4471]@Lotta Juice[/USER] who appears to me to be an honest Liberal trying to defend his positions. Too often Liberals devolve into your a racist, women hating, environment destroying take your pick adjective type dialogue because they do not even understand what they stand for. Bravo to you sir!</p><p></p><p>I do however think you completely misunderstand Conservatives. We have a deep respect and care immensely about those on the bottom. Our view of the world is just different. I want people to have opportunity. Taking their income passively and misusing it for personal gain as most Liberals advocate is reprehensible to a Conservative. I want YOU to enjoy the fruits of YOUR labor, to be given YOUR money that YOU earned to spend however YOU choose. Emphasis on the words YOU/YOUR. Not for GOVERNMENT to decide how much you should be given nor how much GOVERNMENT decides you should keep, nor how much GOVERNMENT deems you should spend or what you should spend it on.</p><p></p><p>It’s called Liberty and Freedom which is what has made this country great. No I don’t want anyone being forced to subsidize a rich kid’s college education at a publicly funded university, I don’t want anyone to be forced to help pay for Annabelle’s abortion even through indirect means, I don’t want anyone to have to assist compensating for someone’s reckless behavior or irresponsibility while you’re hard at work earning a living, etc. If you want to look at art, support your museum. If you like baseball, pay for the stadium don’t ask me to. Pay your own way. There’s charity for charitable cases and they need to stand on their own merits. The do-gooders can do good by giving up THEIR money to those causes if they choose.</p><p></p><p>I grew up in an area where when someone fell on hard times we donated clothes to them, neighbors sent meals down so the families wouldn’t starve, we paid for odd jobs at times, etc. Why does government have any part of how a community operates on a basic level? We didn’t need it where I grew up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LibertyTurns, post: 564789, member: 789"] First off, I want to congratulate [USER=4471]@Lotta Juice[/USER] who appears to me to be an honest Liberal trying to defend his positions. Too often Liberals devolve into your a racist, women hating, environment destroying take your pick adjective type dialogue because they do not even understand what they stand for. Bravo to you sir! I do however think you completely misunderstand Conservatives. We have a deep respect and care immensely about those on the bottom. Our view of the world is just different. I want people to have opportunity. Taking their income passively and misusing it for personal gain as most Liberals advocate is reprehensible to a Conservative. I want YOU to enjoy the fruits of YOUR labor, to be given YOUR money that YOU earned to spend however YOU choose. Emphasis on the words YOU/YOUR. Not for GOVERNMENT to decide how much you should be given nor how much GOVERNMENT decides you should keep, nor how much GOVERNMENT deems you should spend or what you should spend it on. It’s called Liberty and Freedom which is what has made this country great. No I don’t want anyone being forced to subsidize a rich kid’s college education at a publicly funded university, I don’t want anyone to be forced to help pay for Annabelle’s abortion even through indirect means, I don’t want anyone to have to assist compensating for someone’s reckless behavior or irresponsibility while you’re hard at work earning a living, etc. If you want to look at art, support your museum. If you like baseball, pay for the stadium don’t ask me to. Pay your own way. There’s charity for charitable cases and they need to stand on their own merits. The do-gooders can do good by giving up THEIR money to those causes if they choose. I grew up in an area where when someone fell on hard times we donated clothes to them, neighbors sent meals down so the families wouldn’t starve, we paid for odd jobs at times, etc. Why does government have any part of how a community operates on a basic level? We didn’t need it where I grew up. [/QUOTE]
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