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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 2897" data-source="post: 564168"><p>I forgot when I posted to add the caveat that many people on the right deserve the scorn they get on some of these issues because of their behavior.</p><p></p><p>Whaat I see the most is the people on the right are criticized because they don't agree TO THE SAME DEGREE on what the science says as the left. For example, I don't know anybody who thinks climate change is fake, that humans aren't polluting the planet. Where I see the disagreement is the interpretation of it - for example, the IPCC says that if we all instituted the changes they recommend, that we'd see a 0.2 degree reduction in temperatures. Well in my opinion, I don't think its worth taking on all the economic risk of those recommendations if all we think we're going to get is 0.2 degrees. Most of the scientists dramatically bias their own work for political purposes, which damages their credibility. How many times have you read about how much economic impact a hurricane had - Hurricane Michael was $25B - oh and how terrible and much more damage storms are doing now, blah blah blah. Well no big storm had hit that area in several decades. Not only was there 30x more housing built up there, but real estate values had grown by 30x as well. But including that context doesn't suit their purposes.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, so thats a big part of it.</p><p></p><p>On healthcare, part of the reason our system is so bad is because of how much the government has messed everything up. Jobs and regulation are important because they have a much higher correlation to successful outcomes on health insurance coverage than anything else. What has the ACA gotten us? Its helped what - 10 million people get on Medicaid? Have you googled "Medicaid Health Outcomes"? There are studies that show health outcomes are WORSE on Medicaid than having no insurance. There are others that show no difference. So yea, count me has not wanting to make healthcare worse for people.</p><p></p><p>So here is the thing - this entire conversation is great and healthy right? We have our own opinions, point to facts, and respect each other. Neither one of us are trying to bully the other out of existence because your policy preferences are different than mine. And that's the way it should be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 2897, post: 564168"] I forgot when I posted to add the caveat that many people on the right deserve the scorn they get on some of these issues because of their behavior. Whaat I see the most is the people on the right are criticized because they don't agree TO THE SAME DEGREE on what the science says as the left. For example, I don't know anybody who thinks climate change is fake, that humans aren't polluting the planet. Where I see the disagreement is the interpretation of it - for example, the IPCC says that if we all instituted the changes they recommend, that we'd see a 0.2 degree reduction in temperatures. Well in my opinion, I don't think its worth taking on all the economic risk of those recommendations if all we think we're going to get is 0.2 degrees. Most of the scientists dramatically bias their own work for political purposes, which damages their credibility. How many times have you read about how much economic impact a hurricane had - Hurricane Michael was $25B - oh and how terrible and much more damage storms are doing now, blah blah blah. Well no big storm had hit that area in several decades. Not only was there 30x more housing built up there, but real estate values had grown by 30x as well. But including that context doesn't suit their purposes. Anyway, so thats a big part of it. On healthcare, part of the reason our system is so bad is because of how much the government has messed everything up. Jobs and regulation are important because they have a much higher correlation to successful outcomes on health insurance coverage than anything else. What has the ACA gotten us? Its helped what - 10 million people get on Medicaid? Have you googled "Medicaid Health Outcomes"? There are studies that show health outcomes are WORSE on Medicaid than having no insurance. There are others that show no difference. So yea, count me has not wanting to make healthcare worse for people. So here is the thing - this entire conversation is great and healthy right? We have our own opinions, point to facts, and respect each other. Neither one of us are trying to bully the other out of existence because your policy preferences are different than mine. And that's the way it should be. [/QUOTE]
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