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I need to hear more about how this “brand fund” is determined. ****ing ridiculous that “brands” are involved at all (if we’re gonna divvy money up it should be performance-based) but since we’re already there it better be based on TV ratings and not some arbitrary designation. And it better take into account several years prior so GT leading the conference in viewership in 2024 doesn’t get forgotten immediately.
Edit: honestly even that is kind of a **** way of doing it b/c ESPN chooses what games are nationally televised so would be inherently choosing which schools make more money. I guess you could argue it’s in ESPNs interest to give primetime slots to teams that would make them the most money, but that’s a feedback loop that will be impossible for smaller fanbase teams to break into.
Edit: honestly even that is kind of a **** way of doing it b/c ESPN chooses what games are nationally televised so would be inherently choosing which schools make more money. I guess you could argue it’s in ESPNs interest to give primetime slots to teams that would make them the most money, but that’s a feedback loop that will be impossible for smaller fanbase teams to break into.
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The excerpt below from the article signals that Clemson and FSU will still leave the ACC as soon the Grant of Rights expires in 2036 or in 2031 if the ACC agrees to the change below. I assume the ACC will not agree to this request.
"As part of the settlement, Clemson and Florida State are asking the ACC to agree to reduce penalties for exiting the grant of rights after 2031, when TV contracts for the Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 are set to expire."
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1. I kinda wanted the renewal process to blow up just to see how GT can leverage chaos (see: Hello, B1G!). ACC, from what I've read, is ESPN's most lucrative college asset in terms of ROI. Chaos scenario was always going to be low...at the end of the day, it's about profits, and the ACC is a highly profitable business for ESPN.
2. Given how big carriage fees still are, GT needs to make sure the ACC understands what the Atlanta market means for the conference. Giving in to the "bigger brands" is how the Big 12 and PAC 12 found themselves with a power imbalance. Big 12 then saw the "bigger brands" ditch them for a P2 conference. GT may not be the "brand" that FSU or Clemson is now, but those schools will never be in a market the size of Atlanta. Oh, as you've alluded to, when GT is good, the fans notice. A good GT product is proving that we can bring in eyeballs.
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Laughable saying they will leave in 2036 since in a 11 years huge changes could have and are most likely to occur. Why in the world would the ACC agree to give reduced penalties to any school in 2031? There is zero rationale to do that. It would make more sense for the ACC to approach ESPN to provide some mechanism to increase payouts to reduce the differences in school payout when compared to the SEC and Big Ten in the future.
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Well, the ACC's rationale could be to curtail the costly litigation. However, the ACC still holds the cards, and appeasing the big brands didn’t help the B12.
Clemson’s position is that the GoR is valid, but only if when a school is currently an ACC member. So they want reduced exit fees to get out of the GoR before 2036. FSU’s lawsuit just takes the position that the GoR is bogus altogether. Neither position is getting much traction lately.
To all the naysayers predicting the implosion of the ACC for the past year, why did you expect a different outcome than this?
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See the linked article and an excerpt below. According to Ross Dellenger, part of the new contract extension will call for Notre Dame to play Miami, Clemson, and FSU more often. I suspect that means that GT will play ND less often.
According to Yahoo Sports' Ross Dellenger, the ACC and ESPN are expected to reach an agreement in a new television contract for Florida State, Miami, and Clemson "to regularly play more football games vs. Notre Dame." Further explained, this new deal would mean the Irish would face at least two of the three teams during each season, rotating through the combinations.
According to Yahoo Sports' Ross Dellenger, the ACC and ESPN are expected to reach an agreement in a new television contract for Florida State, Miami, and Clemson "to regularly play more football games vs. Notre Dame." Further explained, this new deal would mean the Irish would face at least two of the three teams during each season, rotating through the combinations.
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Well we could be in Big Ten in 2031 if they get their way.
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This was always the very likely outcome.
ESPN makes alot of profit and has alot of content due to its contract with the ACC. To not renew would mean they would have to find ways to replace both - which was unlikely to occur.
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ESPN makes alot of profit and has alot of content due to its contract with the ACC. To not renew would mean they would have to find ways to replace both - which was unlikely to occur.
ACC extends media rights deal through 2036: What it means for Florida State lawsuit, conference realignment
An ACC media rights extension provides security for the league, but further compromises must be reached
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No way this conference stays together until 2036. That’s a pipe dream.
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The viewpoint from Tomahawk Nation. Three of the key paragraphs below.
"ESPN also reported that “as part of the settlement, Clemson and Florida State are asking the ACC to agree to reduce penalties for exiting the grant of rights after 2031, when TV contracts for the Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 are set to expire.”
"Tomahawk Nation previously reported in September that Florida State and Clemson were both seeking an early exit carve out as part of a potential settlement with the ACC. Sources close to the situation reiterated that litigation will likely continue unless FSU and Clemson could potentially join the SEC or Big Ten in time to be factored into the next round of television contract negotiations."
"If a settlement can’t be reached, then expect Florida State and Clemson to argue the extension wasn’t legal to begin with. The original contract signed between the ACC and ESPN said the option had to be exercised by 2021. Commissioner Jim Phillips unilaterally extended the option to 2025 without a vote of the member schools. Whether Phillips had the authority to make such a move will now be a focal point of both school’s legal strategy."
www.tomahawknation.com
"ESPN also reported that “as part of the settlement, Clemson and Florida State are asking the ACC to agree to reduce penalties for exiting the grant of rights after 2031, when TV contracts for the Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 are set to expire.”
"Tomahawk Nation previously reported in September that Florida State and Clemson were both seeking an early exit carve out as part of a potential settlement with the ACC. Sources close to the situation reiterated that litigation will likely continue unless FSU and Clemson could potentially join the SEC or Big Ten in time to be factored into the next round of television contract negotiations."
"If a settlement can’t be reached, then expect Florida State and Clemson to argue the extension wasn’t legal to begin with. The original contract signed between the ACC and ESPN said the option had to be exercised by 2021. Commissioner Jim Phillips unilaterally extended the option to 2025 without a vote of the member schools. Whether Phillips had the authority to make such a move will now be a focal point of both school’s legal strategy."
ESPN exercises ACC TV option through 2036, on revised terms
Will this new deal resolve FSU and Clemson’s legal claims?
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Blah-blah-blah. An FSU fan site exposing the same attitude as mutt fans who run on all fours barking and pretending to piss on opposing fans. FSU fans are not much better than mutt fans, in general.The viewpoint from Tomahawk Nation. Three of the key paragraphs below.
"ESPN also reported that “as part of the settlement, Clemson and Florida State are asking the ACC to agree to reduce penalties for exiting the grant of rights after 2031, when TV contracts for the Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 are set to expire.”
"Tomahawk Nation previously reported in September that Florida State and Clemson were both seeking an early exit carve out as part of a potential settlement with the ACC. Sources close to the situation reiterated that litigation will likely continue unless FSU and Clemson could potentially join the SEC or Big Ten in time to be factored into the next round of television contract negotiations."
"If a settlement can’t be reached, then expect Florida State and Clemson to argue the extension wasn’t legal to begin with. The original contract signed between the ACC and ESPN said the option had to be exercised by 2021. Commissioner Jim Phillips unilaterally extended the option to 2025 without a vote of the member schools. Whether Phillips had the authority to make such a move will now be a focal point of both school’s legal strategy."
ESPN exercises ACC TV option through 2036, on revised terms
Will this new deal resolve FSU and Clemson’s legal claims?
I have zero actual information. (....Which everybody who is making projections about what is going to happen should be prefacing their statements with.) FSU backed off on their hard line stance and now says that they never actually intended to leave the ACC, only explore their options. (Which is in direct conflict with statements made by their BOT in a BOT meeting that was broadcast publicly) Clemson never has been nasty in their lawsuit. FSU is backtracking on their explosive comments. The conference is providing amicable cover for the cessation of hostilities. It appears to me that all sides are working towards making this all go away without anyone having a black eye.