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<blockquote data-quote="CuseJacket" data-source="post: 865228" data-attributes="member: 274"><p>I get it and I'm not going to die on the hill I climbed here. I'm fine accepting an unpopular take. I agree that the potential consequence of this single event alone was a magnitude higher than any one of Allen's transgressions. I'm sympathetic to your points but happy to casually debate the penalty, though I'm not passionate about the penalty he's served either way. I do disagree in some ways.</p><p></p><p>Let me just start here. I don't know what was going through the Clemson dude's head. It's so egregious that I wonder if he blacked out, in all seriousness. Or misjudged what Moore was about to do. He's been in that situation 1000x in his career - had to be if he played AAU - and unless everyone's missed his prior transgressions, he's never done this before. The only single action worse would have been if he left his feet and Superman'd Moore to the ground while in the air.</p><p></p><p>Now, does the Clemson player have a history of this? That's important to me here. I don't think so, which is why I wonder 'wtf'. He still needs to be held accountable.</p><p></p><p>In the case of Duke's Allen, he put players in a position of harm multiple times. I'm not willing to say tripping a dude is harmless. You can cause permanent damage when players are going full throttle. There was a pattern of misbehavior that amounted to an indefinite, single game suspension. And for what it's worth, he's still not learned from it and it's continued in the NBA.</p><p></p><p>I don't know. It's kind of like, yea, one guy likes to get drunk and drive, but at least he's only driving 30 mph and bumps into electrical poles while weaving through crowds, knocking a few folks over without killing them. This other guy got drunk one time and hit someone dead on, 70 mph, but that victim got up and walked away too. I don't have tolerance for either, to be clear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CuseJacket, post: 865228, member: 274"] I get it and I'm not going to die on the hill I climbed here. I'm fine accepting an unpopular take. I agree that the potential consequence of this single event alone was a magnitude higher than any one of Allen's transgressions. I'm sympathetic to your points but happy to casually debate the penalty, though I'm not passionate about the penalty he's served either way. I do disagree in some ways. Let me just start here. I don't know what was going through the Clemson dude's head. It's so egregious that I wonder if he blacked out, in all seriousness. Or misjudged what Moore was about to do. He's been in that situation 1000x in his career - had to be if he played AAU - and unless everyone's missed his prior transgressions, he's never done this before. The only single action worse would have been if he left his feet and Superman'd Moore to the ground while in the air. Now, does the Clemson player have a history of this? That's important to me here. I don't think so, which is why I wonder 'wtf'. He still needs to be held accountable. In the case of Duke's Allen, he put players in a position of harm multiple times. I'm not willing to say tripping a dude is harmless. You can cause permanent damage when players are going full throttle. There was a pattern of misbehavior that amounted to an indefinite, single game suspension. And for what it's worth, he's still not learned from it and it's continued in the NBA. I don't know. It's kind of like, yea, one guy likes to get drunk and drive, but at least he's only driving 30 mph and bumps into electrical poles while weaving through crowds, knocking a few folks over without killing them. This other guy got drunk one time and hit someone dead on, 70 mph, but that victim got up and walked away too. I don't have tolerance for either, to be clear. [/QUOTE]
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