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<blockquote data-quote="JacketOff" data-source="post: 771549" data-attributes="member: 4572"><p>To say Clemson is cheating is to imply they’re doing something outside of the rules. I can’t say with 100% certainty, but I would assume there is no rule that says a team can’t infer knowledge from their opponent’s signals or call outs. However, I would also assume that utilizing outside technology to assist in their signal thievery *is* outside of the rules, thus making it illegal and cheating. Stealing signs in real-time is not “cheating,” and attempting to do so is common and prevalent in all high level sports. Gaining an advantage within the rules, and using the opponent’s incompetence against them should never be considered cheating.</p><p></p><p>To imply what Clemson is doing (given it’s all done in real time with no technological help, or it’s part of pre-game prep) is to imply a poker player reading his opponents’ faces is also cheating. Or a baseball hitter picking up on a pitcher tipping his pitches is cheating. Or a chessmaster analyzing his opponent’s moves and adjusting accordingly is cheating. To take it to an extreme, if what Clemson is doing is cheating (again, given it’s real-time/pre-game prep) then adjusting a play call after the offense audibles can be considered cheating. Audibling requires signals/callouts, and if you aren’t allowed to use those against the opponent, then adjusting your own play call would be impossible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JacketOff, post: 771549, member: 4572"] To say Clemson is cheating is to imply they’re doing something outside of the rules. I can’t say with 100% certainty, but I would assume there is no rule that says a team can’t infer knowledge from their opponent’s signals or call outs. However, I would also assume that utilizing outside technology to assist in their signal thievery *is* outside of the rules, thus making it illegal and cheating. Stealing signs in real-time is not “cheating,” and attempting to do so is common and prevalent in all high level sports. Gaining an advantage within the rules, and using the opponent’s incompetence against them should never be considered cheating. To imply what Clemson is doing (given it’s all done in real time with no technological help, or it’s part of pre-game prep) is to imply a poker player reading his opponents’ faces is also cheating. Or a baseball hitter picking up on a pitcher tipping his pitches is cheating. Or a chessmaster analyzing his opponent’s moves and adjusting accordingly is cheating. To take it to an extreme, if what Clemson is doing is cheating (again, given it’s real-time/pre-game prep) then adjusting a play call after the offense audibles can be considered cheating. Audibling requires signals/callouts, and if you aren’t allowed to use those against the opponent, then adjusting your own play call would be impossible. [/QUOTE]
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