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<blockquote data-quote="RespectAPA" data-source="post: 758600" data-attributes="member: 4748"><p>People really saying CPJ's offensive success was just because of the players he inherited?</p><p></p><p>What's the slant for all the other years the offense was signficantly better than the defense on an accurately-adjusted basis? 2011, 2012, **2014**, 2016, **2018**? And the years not mentioned, the offense was still better [sans 2015], just not by the crazy amounts as in those main 5 years.</p><p></p><p>Something I find interesting:</p><p>When we're talking shotgun spread coaches, the solution to not meeting expectations is to bring in a different shotgun spread coach; when we're talking flexbone coaches, the solution to not meeting expectations is to completely give up on the scheme--not matter how well the offense has been playing during his tenure? I'm dead serious, looking at the data it's hard to imagine what more the fans could have wanted! [granted, some people are probably staring at OYPG and DYPG, without any awareness of how those metrics are inherently biased against offenses that run fewer plays per game than the average offense; can't blame those people too much, unless they stubbornly defend YPG as being the end-all-be-all, in which case I will happily blame them] And yet, when a coach has an odd scheme, it always has to be that scheme's fault--after all, shotgun spread offenses <em>never</em> get stuffed by top 4 defenses, right? [pay no mind to Clemson holding Notre Dame to 3 points in 2018, or Georgia holding Auburn to 6 points this year]</p><p></p><p><em>CPJ wasn't the future of the program, sure</em>. His defensive coaching and recruiting just wasn't up to P5 par, and there's little reason to believe that would change. Monken should have been given a chance to see what he could do. [and Bohannon's KSU blows up the "you can't run the flexbone and have a good defense" theory; and, heck, Monken's Army team ain't half bad at defense this year either]</p><p></p><p>And if it didn't work, then flex on over to a shotgun <em>option</em> coach so whenever he doesn't meet expectations, we will at least have a QB and OL that was recruited with passing talent at least tangentially in mind. Or even skip the Monken step, if you insist. Still a better plan than what got put into practice!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RespectAPA, post: 758600, member: 4748"] People really saying CPJ's offensive success was just because of the players he inherited? What's the slant for all the other years the offense was signficantly better than the defense on an accurately-adjusted basis? 2011, 2012, **2014**, 2016, **2018**? And the years not mentioned, the offense was still better [sans 2015], just not by the crazy amounts as in those main 5 years. Something I find interesting: When we're talking shotgun spread coaches, the solution to not meeting expectations is to bring in a different shotgun spread coach; when we're talking flexbone coaches, the solution to not meeting expectations is to completely give up on the scheme--not matter how well the offense has been playing during his tenure? I'm dead serious, looking at the data it's hard to imagine what more the fans could have wanted! [granted, some people are probably staring at OYPG and DYPG, without any awareness of how those metrics are inherently biased against offenses that run fewer plays per game than the average offense; can't blame those people too much, unless they stubbornly defend YPG as being the end-all-be-all, in which case I will happily blame them] And yet, when a coach has an odd scheme, it always has to be that scheme's fault--after all, shotgun spread offenses [I]never[/I] get stuffed by top 4 defenses, right? [pay no mind to Clemson holding Notre Dame to 3 points in 2018, or Georgia holding Auburn to 6 points this year] [I]CPJ wasn't the future of the program, sure[/I]. His defensive coaching and recruiting just wasn't up to P5 par, and there's little reason to believe that would change. Monken should have been given a chance to see what he could do. [and Bohannon's KSU blows up the "you can't run the flexbone and have a good defense" theory; and, heck, Monken's Army team ain't half bad at defense this year either] And if it didn't work, then flex on over to a shotgun [I]option[/I] coach so whenever he doesn't meet expectations, we will at least have a QB and OL that was recruited with passing talent at least tangentially in mind. Or even skip the Monken step, if you insist. Still a better plan than what got put into practice! [/QUOTE]
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