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<blockquote data-quote="FredJacket" data-source="post: 1183745" data-attributes="member: 2843">I&#039;ve never seen it either. I hope I didn&#039;t come across as suggesting Ramsey was in any way at fault. He never made a gesture that would &#039;normally&#039; be considered &#039;the gesture&#039;.My only quibble with your comment. He argued because he did not gesture and they called the guy from the bullpen. He&#039;s not going to ignore that even if he planned on making the move. The umps need to be paying attention and not get the easy things wrong. CJR&#039;s job is to hold them to account to the extent he can.I&#039;m with [USER=7369]@DecaturJacket[/USER]&nbsp; ... had he REALLY never intended to make a move, he would have lost his mind. The arguing would&nbsp; have been much more animated. My amateur lip reading toward the end of the discussion (with both HP and 3B ump together) had him saying something like &quot;...give my guy time to get ready....that&#039;s all I&#039;m asking for...&quot; he repeated it. Seems like words you&#039;d use if he simply was bothered by the timing of the bad &#039;call&#039;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FredJacket, post: 1183745, member: 2843"] I've never seen it either. I hope I didn't come across as suggesting Ramsey was in any way at fault. He never made a gesture that would 'normally' be considered 'the gesture'. My only quibble with your comment. He argued because he did not gesture and they called the guy from the bullpen. He's not going to ignore that even if he planned on making the move. The umps need to be paying attention and not get the easy things wrong. CJR's job is to hold them to account to the extent he can. I'm with [USER=7369]@DecaturJacket[/USER] ... had he REALLY never intended to make a move, he would have lost his mind. The arguing would have been much more animated. My amateur lip reading toward the end of the discussion (with both HP and 3B ump together) had him saying something like "...give my guy time to get ready....that's all I'm asking for..." he repeated it. Seems like words you'd use if he simply was bothered by the timing of the bad 'call'. [/QUOTE]

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