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<blockquote data-quote="lv20gt" data-source="post: 989202" data-attributes="member: 2299"><p>Not sure the point of your inclusion of the quote is. Yeah, the roster was poised to live by the three. The roster includes everyone, not just the returning players. And that shouldn't be a particular disputed statement. You can just look at what the players had done prior to this year to see that was the case. </p><p></p><p>In any case, no, Kelly isn't the only problem. No matter how convenient it would be if the only issue was him being on a cold shooting streak. He has a bad shooting %. He is joined by Gapare, Abram, and George in that aspect though which is a group that makes up over 21% of our total attempts. Kelly himself is at 28.8% of our 3 point attempts so that group can't be just ignored. </p><p></p><p>But the problem you want to pretend doesn't exist is the one of a lack of looks for the players who don't have bad %s (Sturdivant, Colman, and Reeves). Sturdy has always been about a 33% shooter from 3 basically being good enough to make it worth it to shoot a good look but not good enough to warrant trying to generate looks for and remains so this year, but his volume has decreased beyond what you would expect even with decreased playing time. That should be a fairly straightforward barometer of the point. But, our two best shooters have only combined for 33% of our teams total three point attempts. Even including Sturdivant that number goes up to just 41.3%. To compare, last year our two best three point shooters accounted for 46% of our three point attempts. In total 83% of our 3 point attempts last year were taken by players who shot 32% or better (comparable to the inclusion of Sturdy). So the question is why do are better shooters not get more looks if it's just Kelly cold shooting? To me it's pretty clear explanation is that Kelly is willing to take worse shots, which explains both his lower % and Reeves/Coleman/Sturdivant's lower volume. </p><p></p><p>Now, it's also worth reiterating that Coleman, outside of the GSU and ULM games is shooting just 27.8% (down 8.2%) and Reeves outside of the GSU and Duke games is shooting just 28.6% (down 9.4%). To compare, if you took away 5 of Kelly's best shooting games last year (Cuse, UL, FSU,UVA, and NE) he's be at 33.8% (down 4.1%). Obviously taking out the best performances of any player will hurt their overall numbers, but it is also fairly clear that those two games for each of them are having a significantly higher impact than a similar number, ratio obviously, of games did for Kelly last year. Those numbers also put them pretty square in line with what the overall story of our 3 point shooting has been. </p><p></p><p>Also, if the issue was just Kelly, and that we were getting good looks overall, you'd expect the games where he has fewer attempts would have a similar number of shots with the shots that Kelly normally gets going elsewhere. However, that hasn't really played out. Against Hawaii he shot just 3. The team shot just 17. Against Cinci he shot just 3, and again the team shot just 17 total. He shot 5 against Howard, the team shot 18. Against UMass he shot 6 and the team shot 17. Generally speaking when he doesn't shoot as much, those shots just aren't being taken. So he's taking shots that others are either incapable or unwilling to take. The one exception to that is against UML where he shot 6 and the team shot 30 (Deebo shot 9 and Abram shot 5 in 14 minutes). In the games I haven't yet mentioned we shot 29,27, 23, 27, 28, 22, and 26. </p><p></p><p>Lastly, if all else was the same, but Kelly was shooting 38% that would put us at 33.09% as a team good for 187th in the country. So yeah. It isn't just Kelly that is the problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lv20gt, post: 989202, member: 2299"] Not sure the point of your inclusion of the quote is. Yeah, the roster was poised to live by the three. The roster includes everyone, not just the returning players. And that shouldn't be a particular disputed statement. You can just look at what the players had done prior to this year to see that was the case. In any case, no, Kelly isn't the only problem. No matter how convenient it would be if the only issue was him being on a cold shooting streak. He has a bad shooting %. He is joined by Gapare, Abram, and George in that aspect though which is a group that makes up over 21% of our total attempts. Kelly himself is at 28.8% of our 3 point attempts so that group can't be just ignored. But the problem you want to pretend doesn't exist is the one of a lack of looks for the players who don't have bad %s (Sturdivant, Colman, and Reeves). Sturdy has always been about a 33% shooter from 3 basically being good enough to make it worth it to shoot a good look but not good enough to warrant trying to generate looks for and remains so this year, but his volume has decreased beyond what you would expect even with decreased playing time. That should be a fairly straightforward barometer of the point. But, our two best shooters have only combined for 33% of our teams total three point attempts. Even including Sturdivant that number goes up to just 41.3%. To compare, last year our two best three point shooters accounted for 46% of our three point attempts. In total 83% of our 3 point attempts last year were taken by players who shot 32% or better (comparable to the inclusion of Sturdy). So the question is why do are better shooters not get more looks if it's just Kelly cold shooting? To me it's pretty clear explanation is that Kelly is willing to take worse shots, which explains both his lower % and Reeves/Coleman/Sturdivant's lower volume. Now, it's also worth reiterating that Coleman, outside of the GSU and ULM games is shooting just 27.8% (down 8.2%) and Reeves outside of the GSU and Duke games is shooting just 28.6% (down 9.4%). To compare, if you took away 5 of Kelly's best shooting games last year (Cuse, UL, FSU,UVA, and NE) he's be at 33.8% (down 4.1%). Obviously taking out the best performances of any player will hurt their overall numbers, but it is also fairly clear that those two games for each of them are having a significantly higher impact than a similar number, ratio obviously, of games did for Kelly last year. Those numbers also put them pretty square in line with what the overall story of our 3 point shooting has been. Also, if the issue was just Kelly, and that we were getting good looks overall, you'd expect the games where he has fewer attempts would have a similar number of shots with the shots that Kelly normally gets going elsewhere. However, that hasn't really played out. Against Hawaii he shot just 3. The team shot just 17. Against Cinci he shot just 3, and again the team shot just 17 total. He shot 5 against Howard, the team shot 18. Against UMass he shot 6 and the team shot 17. Generally speaking when he doesn't shoot as much, those shots just aren't being taken. So he's taking shots that others are either incapable or unwilling to take. The one exception to that is against UML where he shot 6 and the team shot 30 (Deebo shot 9 and Abram shot 5 in 14 minutes). In the games I haven't yet mentioned we shot 29,27, 23, 27, 28, 22, and 26. Lastly, if all else was the same, but Kelly was shooting 38% that would put us at 33.09% as a team good for 187th in the country. So yeah. It isn't just Kelly that is the problem. [/QUOTE]
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