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<blockquote data-quote="FredJacket" data-source="post: 861434" data-attributes="member: 2843"><p>Pitchers play defense too... some of them play it poorly. Honestly, my observation is very few play defense really well. In 2021, our pitchers accounted for 14 of the team's 72 errors (19%). 3B was the only position accounting for more errors (18) on the season. Pitchers who can't field their position fall in same category for me as basketball players that cannot make free throws. Put in the work... get better at it. The dividend is only going to help you and the team succeed. Maybe those issues (when they arise) are on the coaches. I don't know.</p><p></p><p>There is some irony (statistically speaking) that a pitcher's error(s) have a positive impact on their own (or the pitcher they just relieved) ERA. </p><p></p><p>Scenario... 2 outs and Pitcher A walks the bases loaded. Pitcher B is brought in to shut the door. Ground ball to 1B... 1B tosses to pitcher covering and he fumbles it (E1). Safe at 1st. 2 runs score. No earned runs charged to either pitcher A or B no matter how many are scored in the inning. (I think I'm right about that)</p><p></p><p>"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamppost: for support, not illumination." -Vin Scully</p><p></p><p>[USER=322]@GTNavyNuke[/USER] ...I doubt any of the above relates at all to your question or your analysis. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😃" title="Grinning face with big eyes :smiley:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f603.png" data-shortname=":smiley:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FredJacket, post: 861434, member: 2843"] Pitchers play defense too... some of them play it poorly. Honestly, my observation is very few play defense really well. In 2021, our pitchers accounted for 14 of the team's 72 errors (19%). 3B was the only position accounting for more errors (18) on the season. Pitchers who can't field their position fall in same category for me as basketball players that cannot make free throws. Put in the work... get better at it. The dividend is only going to help you and the team succeed. Maybe those issues (when they arise) are on the coaches. I don't know. There is some irony (statistically speaking) that a pitcher's error(s) have a positive impact on their own (or the pitcher they just relieved) ERA. Scenario... 2 outs and Pitcher A walks the bases loaded. Pitcher B is brought in to shut the door. Ground ball to 1B... 1B tosses to pitcher covering and he fumbles it (E1). Safe at 1st. 2 runs score. No earned runs charged to either pitcher A or B no matter how many are scored in the inning. (I think I'm right about that) "Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamppost: for support, not illumination." -Vin Scully [USER=322]@GTNavyNuke[/USER] ...I doubt any of the above relates at all to your question or your analysis. 😃 [/QUOTE]
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