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<blockquote data-quote="jacketup" data-source="post: 723163" data-attributes="member: 630"><p>I apologize in advance but I will pick apart your post. Most points I agree with. Mostly I am adding detail to your post.</p><p></p><p>Collins was an unknown commodity as a head coach at the P5 level, but so were our last two head coaches. Collins has many years of working at the P5 level with some very good coaches. Our previous two coaches had no P5 experience. We could have hired a successful head coach from a HS, but so what? Thinking Faust and ND here. Collins is the most experienced P5 coach we've had in a while. </p><p></p><p>Johnson walked into the job with the 2007 recruits--the best class ever at GT-and recruited by Gailey--and Collins. His first two years were his only two consecutive P5 winning years thanks to those recruits. Gailey gets an assist. Johnson then went 53-53 in FBS games after the first two years. Why? Recruiting. Elite kids didn't see the system that would get them to the NFL. Also, he didn't have a staff that was built on recruiting. Coach Mac recruited well, so it could be done, but the rest of the staff was not very good at it. Johnson didn't fix that problem. That's why we won 3 games last year. Johnson would have beaten The Citadel last year with that team, but I am not sure he would have beaten Miami. </p><p></p><p>If you compare the talent level in 2008--Johnson's first year--with the talent level in 2019, it's a huge difference. People who don't understand that are clueless. And that's not Collins' fault. As Urban Meyer said in an interview before a bowl game last year, college football begins and ends with recruiting. So just as Gailey gets an assist for the 2008-2009 record, Johnson gets an assist for the 2019 record. And it's not a good one. </p><p></p><p>And I don't care about the "Johnson is gone why do you post this stuff?' comments. Johnson is gone, but we are still living with what he left behind. As long as people criticize Collins for last year's results, the whole truth needs to come out. GT Swarm is not NBC or CNN which are built on half truths.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jacketup, post: 723163, member: 630"] I apologize in advance but I will pick apart your post. Most points I agree with. Mostly I am adding detail to your post. Collins was an unknown commodity as a head coach at the P5 level, but so were our last two head coaches. Collins has many years of working at the P5 level with some very good coaches. Our previous two coaches had no P5 experience. We could have hired a successful head coach from a HS, but so what? Thinking Faust and ND here. Collins is the most experienced P5 coach we've had in a while. Johnson walked into the job with the 2007 recruits--the best class ever at GT-and recruited by Gailey--and Collins. His first two years were his only two consecutive P5 winning years thanks to those recruits. Gailey gets an assist. Johnson then went 53-53 in FBS games after the first two years. Why? Recruiting. Elite kids didn't see the system that would get them to the NFL. Also, he didn't have a staff that was built on recruiting. Coach Mac recruited well, so it could be done, but the rest of the staff was not very good at it. Johnson didn't fix that problem. That's why we won 3 games last year. Johnson would have beaten The Citadel last year with that team, but I am not sure he would have beaten Miami. If you compare the talent level in 2008--Johnson's first year--with the talent level in 2019, it's a huge difference. People who don't understand that are clueless. And that's not Collins' fault. As Urban Meyer said in an interview before a bowl game last year, college football begins and ends with recruiting. So just as Gailey gets an assist for the 2008-2009 record, Johnson gets an assist for the 2019 record. And it's not a good one. And I don't care about the "Johnson is gone why do you post this stuff?' comments. Johnson is gone, but we are still living with what he left behind. As long as people criticize Collins for last year's results, the whole truth needs to come out. GT Swarm is not NBC or CNN which are built on half truths. [/QUOTE]
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