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<blockquote data-quote="SoCal_GT_Fan" data-source="post: 373247" data-attributes="member: 365"><p>Ok, no problem. I just wanted to make sure people weren't just going by that 68-67 record at Rutgers and thinking, "meh". Yea, if you look at just that by itself, it's not impressive at all but if you are able to look at what he had to start with and what that program was at the end of his tenure, it's like night and day.</p><p></p><p>With Butch..... I think he just was lucky enough to follow after Brian Kelly from WMU to Cinncinati and had some pieces to work with at both jobs before he was picked up by Tennessee. It wasn't a tear-down project like what Schiano had. Also, there were some academic restrictions that Schiano had to contend with (Rutgers has a similar situation like GT with the Hill).</p><p></p><p>Now, I don't know HOW Schiano would have done at U of T. I mean, there are other HC's like Schiano who resurrected doormat programs (Al Golden at Temple, Gary Barnett at Northwestern come to mind) and they didn't exactly light the world on fire at the next HC gig.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Sorry Cuse, I was typing away when you had posted above. You can send this post into the coaching carousel thread as well as the other one I had about Rutgers/Schiano.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SoCal_GT_Fan, post: 373247, member: 365"] Ok, no problem. I just wanted to make sure people weren't just going by that 68-67 record at Rutgers and thinking, "meh". Yea, if you look at just that by itself, it's not impressive at all but if you are able to look at what he had to start with and what that program was at the end of his tenure, it's like night and day. With Butch..... I think he just was lucky enough to follow after Brian Kelly from WMU to Cinncinati and had some pieces to work with at both jobs before he was picked up by Tennessee. It wasn't a tear-down project like what Schiano had. Also, there were some academic restrictions that Schiano had to contend with (Rutgers has a similar situation like GT with the Hill). Now, I don't know HOW Schiano would have done at U of T. I mean, there are other HC's like Schiano who resurrected doormat programs (Al Golden at Temple, Gary Barnett at Northwestern come to mind) and they didn't exactly light the world on fire at the next HC gig. EDIT: Sorry Cuse, I was typing away when you had posted above. You can send this post into the coaching carousel thread as well as the other one I had about Rutgers/Schiano. [/QUOTE]
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