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<blockquote data-quote="Northeast Stinger" data-source="post: 320873" data-attributes="member: 1640"><p>Yes. I was unconvinced. </p><p></p><p>But I doubt you and I would get anywhere debating it.</p><p></p><p>But, just so you know, my problem is that this sounds like the same argument that has cropped up every few months over the last several years, each time claiming to be some new breathtaking scoop on "the climate change conspiracy." Since I do not believe there is a conspiracy, it is hard for me to read the same old arguments over and over again with fresh eyes. </p><p></p><p>But, let me try to be a little more generous to this position. Let's assume everyone from NASA to the EPA to the Pentagon to the CIA to the NSA to the Weather Channel, etc., etc., is not actually in on the conspiracy but in fact are all being duped by a few well placed people who are in on the conspiracy. Then the question arises as to what the motive is. In my mind I have exhausted every possible explanation for why a group of people would want to dupe the entire world on this topic and I find them all to be pretty far fetched. </p><p></p><p>So let's just say that everyone has a bias in this discussion and leave it at that. Joe D'Aleo has been pretty up front about his bias which I will quote:</p><p>"We believe Earth and its ecosystems — created by God’s intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence — are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting, admirably suited for human flourishing, and displaying His glory. Earth's climate system is no exception."</p><p></p><p>I find this to be really terrible theology, contrary to scripture and sacred tradition. But that is my bias. So you see the problem. I would have to chance my entire world view (something that only one person in a million can ever accomplish) to accept the starting point of the person whose bias is to not take climate change seriously.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Northeast Stinger, post: 320873, member: 1640"] Yes. I was unconvinced. But I doubt you and I would get anywhere debating it. But, just so you know, my problem is that this sounds like the same argument that has cropped up every few months over the last several years, each time claiming to be some new breathtaking scoop on "the climate change conspiracy." Since I do not believe there is a conspiracy, it is hard for me to read the same old arguments over and over again with fresh eyes. But, let me try to be a little more generous to this position. Let's assume everyone from NASA to the EPA to the Pentagon to the CIA to the NSA to the Weather Channel, etc., etc., is not actually in on the conspiracy but in fact are all being duped by a few well placed people who are in on the conspiracy. Then the question arises as to what the motive is. In my mind I have exhausted every possible explanation for why a group of people would want to dupe the entire world on this topic and I find them all to be pretty far fetched. So let's just say that everyone has a bias in this discussion and leave it at that. Joe D'Aleo has been pretty up front about his bias which I will quote: "We believe Earth and its ecosystems — created by God’s intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence — are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting, admirably suited for human flourishing, and displaying His glory. Earth's climate system is no exception." I find this to be really terrible theology, contrary to scripture and sacred tradition. But that is my bias. So you see the problem. I would have to chance my entire world view (something that only one person in a million can ever accomplish) to accept the starting point of the person whose bias is to not take climate change seriously. [/QUOTE]
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