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<blockquote data-quote="Techster" data-source="post: 428983" data-attributes="member: 360"><p>Just out of curiosity, I looked up a few of our academic peers (schools that are STEM heavy):</p><p></p><p>MIT</p><p><a href="https://due.mit.edu/news/2014/fun-facts-about-mit-retention-and-graduation-rates" target="_blank">https://due.mit.edu/news/2014/fun-facts-about-mit-retention-and-graduation-rates</a></p><p></p><p>CalTech</p><p><a href="https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/california-institute-of-technology/academic-life/graduation-and-retention/" target="_blank">https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/california-institute-of-technology/academic-life/graduation-and-retention/</a></p><p></p><p>Cal Berkeley (Includes all major including "Liberal Arts")</p><p><a href="https://opa.berkeley.edu/uc-berkeley-retention-and-graduation-rates" target="_blank">https://opa.berkeley.edu/uc-berkeley-retention-and-graduation-rates</a></p><p></p><p>Going a little further, I looked at the retention rate of the "Elite" schools that GT is grouped with:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return" target="_blank">https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return</a></p><p></p><p>The dirty secret with elite academics isn't that they're "elite" because they cull out the less deserving after enrolling, but that they are selective on the front end. The retention rate almost without fail for these "elite" schools is in the upper 90's. Why is that? Is it because they are more selective (or more successful) identifying those that will succeed in their programs, or are they better at supporting their students once enrolled? A combination of both?</p><p></p><p>I think there's some truth to the whole hurting ourselves with the "I got out" ethos GT students embrace. There's certainly truth to it as GT is more rigorous than the average college, but I also think GT is more self aware these days of that and has taken steps to improve retention rate more in line with our peers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Techster, post: 428983, member: 360"] Just out of curiosity, I looked up a few of our academic peers (schools that are STEM heavy): MIT [URL]https://due.mit.edu/news/2014/fun-facts-about-mit-retention-and-graduation-rates[/URL] CalTech [URL]https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/california-institute-of-technology/academic-life/graduation-and-retention/[/URL] Cal Berkeley (Includes all major including "Liberal Arts") [URL]https://opa.berkeley.edu/uc-berkeley-retention-and-graduation-rates[/URL] Going a little further, I looked at the retention rate of the "Elite" schools that GT is grouped with: [URL]https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return[/URL] The dirty secret with elite academics isn't that they're "elite" because they cull out the less deserving after enrolling, but that they are selective on the front end. The retention rate almost without fail for these "elite" schools is in the upper 90's. Why is that? Is it because they are more selective (or more successful) identifying those that will succeed in their programs, or are they better at supporting their students once enrolled? A combination of both? I think there's some truth to the whole hurting ourselves with the "I got out" ethos GT students embrace. There's certainly truth to it as GT is more rigorous than the average college, but I also think GT is more self aware these days of that and has taken steps to improve retention rate more in line with our peers. [/QUOTE]
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