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<blockquote data-quote="vamosjackets" data-source="post: 91884" data-attributes="member: 216"><p>I really don't understand your logic here. You're saying the coaches got it wrong because Stargel was starting for weeks and he was so bad. Then you're saying the coaches are wrong because Stargel isn't starting. Then you're saying the coaches are bad because Chungong was starting and then because he isn't. Then they're just in over their head because some other guy (Travis) is starting. </p><p></p><p>It sounds to me like there is no right answer for you unless we find somebody who's actually a playmaker. Well, what if there isn't anybody like that? I haven't seen Travis being as bad as you and others are saying, and I think y'all are saying that just because he doesn't look the part and not because he's been any less productive than the other guys at the position. I actually think he's been more productive than the other guys which is why he's still starting. But, that makes too much sense. </p><p></p><p>What you've got to accept as your first premise in order to logically understand the coaches' decisions here is that we don't have anybody who can do better! If we did, they'd be playing! I'm sure we'll keep the competition open and keep looking, but it's highly unlikely that we are going to find a 3rd string OL or a 2nd string DT (on a team with only 4 total) who can be a better DE than the guys that are there. If they were that good, they probably wouldn't be 3'rd string OL or 2nd string DT. Putting Gamble at DE might be an option, but then who's going to rotate in at DT? He plays about as much at DT as Green does. </p><p></p><p>Dude, when you lose 6 out of your top 8 DL in the Spring (3 of 4 starters), your defense in the fall isn't going to just keep rolling. </p><p></p><p>If you're talking about trying out some possible pass rushing guys on obvious passing downs, then sure, I'm with you, but it's quite possible that the guys we've got out there are actually the best pass rushers. Maybe throwing Simmons out there could make a difference, or maybe it could make it worse. </p><p></p><p>I have no doubt in my mind that they're putting the best guys they have on the field and they will continue to look for ways to improve and ways to get guys who can do better at something a chance to do that, but I knew (and I would think you and most others knew) going into this season that our defense was in trouble. I didn't know if Roof had a scheme that could mask that many personnel issues. Turns out he doesn't, and I'm not sure even Tenuta's scheme could mask that much, and I 'm as big a Tenuta fan as anybody. </p><p></p><p>We've all seen Ted put a better defense on the field when he has better personnel (GT-2000, GT-2001, PSU-2012, last year was undoubtedly better than this year), so I think Ted can be successful here with a little better personnel situation, which I think we will have starting next year and going forward.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vamosjackets, post: 91884, member: 216"] I really don't understand your logic here. You're saying the coaches got it wrong because Stargel was starting for weeks and he was so bad. Then you're saying the coaches are wrong because Stargel isn't starting. Then you're saying the coaches are bad because Chungong was starting and then because he isn't. Then they're just in over their head because some other guy (Travis) is starting. It sounds to me like there is no right answer for you unless we find somebody who's actually a playmaker. Well, what if there isn't anybody like that? I haven't seen Travis being as bad as you and others are saying, and I think y'all are saying that just because he doesn't look the part and not because he's been any less productive than the other guys at the position. I actually think he's been more productive than the other guys which is why he's still starting. But, that makes too much sense. What you've got to accept as your first premise in order to logically understand the coaches' decisions here is that we don't have anybody who can do better! If we did, they'd be playing! I'm sure we'll keep the competition open and keep looking, but it's highly unlikely that we are going to find a 3rd string OL or a 2nd string DT (on a team with only 4 total) who can be a better DE than the guys that are there. If they were that good, they probably wouldn't be 3'rd string OL or 2nd string DT. Putting Gamble at DE might be an option, but then who's going to rotate in at DT? He plays about as much at DT as Green does. Dude, when you lose 6 out of your top 8 DL in the Spring (3 of 4 starters), your defense in the fall isn't going to just keep rolling. If you're talking about trying out some possible pass rushing guys on obvious passing downs, then sure, I'm with you, but it's quite possible that the guys we've got out there are actually the best pass rushers. Maybe throwing Simmons out there could make a difference, or maybe it could make it worse. I have no doubt in my mind that they're putting the best guys they have on the field and they will continue to look for ways to improve and ways to get guys who can do better at something a chance to do that, but I knew (and I would think you and most others knew) going into this season that our defense was in trouble. I didn't know if Roof had a scheme that could mask that many personnel issues. Turns out he doesn't, and I'm not sure even Tenuta's scheme could mask that much, and I 'm as big a Tenuta fan as anybody. We've all seen Ted put a better defense on the field when he has better personnel (GT-2000, GT-2001, PSU-2012, last year was undoubtedly better than this year), so I think Ted can be successful here with a little better personnel situation, which I think we will have starting next year and going forward. [/QUOTE]
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