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When Freedom of Speech runs into Rules & Regulations

Discussion in 'The Swarm Lounge' started by Supersizethatorder-mutt, Jul 3, 2019.

  1. Supersizethatorder-mutt

    Supersizethatorder-mutt Helluva Engineer

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    I just got an "alert" that a post I made on this thread was "moved" to a thread of the same name. WTH is that? What they did was delete my post, which makes no sense. All I did was comment that I'm glad we went with Adidas instead of Nike. What's wrong with that?
     
  2. BuzzThePlumber

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    You brought politics into a thread about adidas GT gear.
     
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  3. Supersizethatorder-mutt

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    So the truth is not important and stating it is not allowed, huh? That is really stretching it.
     
  4. Ibeeballin

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    What’s the truth and who’s truth is it?
     
  5. Supersizethatorder-mutt

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    I guess I would be censored for posting it, so look it up yourself.
     
  6. BuzzThePlumber

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    You are missing Ibeeballin’s point. Do you not see that you stated something that happened, then offered your personal political opinion on what happened? Just sayin’. Our common ground here is the Jackets. That’s the only safe assumption to make. All other topics lead inevitably to emotionally charged vitriol.
     
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  7. AlabamaBuzz

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    Hello S
    SS, I am sure this will be "censored" as well, but just not sure where we live anymore. Still the greatest experiment in governance this world has ever known. Countries always do themselves in from within. Something like the flag that draped countless thousands and thousands of young men's and women's caskets should not be censored, but it is.
     
  8. jwsavhGT

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    We don't believe in censorship at GTSwarm but we do try to keep threads from being derailed. In light of that, I have moved certain posts from The Official 2019 Adidas Swag thread to here.
     
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  9. Supersizethatorder-mutt

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    What was puzzling yesterday was that my post was said to have been moved from the Adidas thread to the Adidas thread. Why not just say it was deleted, or, as you have done now, create a new thread for it?
     
  10. Supersizethatorder-mutt

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    I don't really see how saying that I'm glad we went with Adidas instead of Nike is "political," but whateva.
     
  11. bwelbo

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    Thank you for your service to this site. We do need some refuge where not everything has to be political.
     
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  12. AlabamaBuzz

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    The flag of this great country is not about "politics". Someone else can bring "politics" into it, if they like, but it is just an endearing symbol of our country, that means a lot to us families of military, and should mean a lot to every citizen. I will never understand why someone who hates this great experiment does not move away. Not only do others not move away, but they risk their life to get here. We are not a perfect country, since we are made up of imperfect humans, but trust me, we are better than most of the world - I have been to many other countries, and the U.S. is especially blessed. In the U.S., we are blessed with such inalienable rights that we are now arguing about things that are not God-given rights - we are arguing about "privilege".
     
  13. bwelbo

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    Nike sucks dog balls. That’s a true statement too, and a comment better left for the lounge.
     
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  14. AlabamaBuzz

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    We currently live in a country full of people who are happy to think of themselves as victims. Victimology has become a religion, a way of life. I wish we could bring it back, but when so many think being "offended" is a high crime and misdemeanor, I am not sure we can. So many have been misinformed to believe their state in life is based on what others have done to them or think about them.

    Oh well. Happy 4th, everyone! :)
     
  15. Technut1990

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    Speaking of Free speech, someone please explain today's Appeals Ct ruling on Trumps Social Media ? I'm confused. so essentially if you are a government employee and tweet about your policy positions ( note I said positions, your desires) your tweets page becomes public domain and you are barred from unfriending followers ?

    Dosent Trump have to allow the followers ? If so then isn't it a private page to which access has been given ? Isn't the fact that you have to have a password to access your page proof that its private ? This seems a bit over reaching in the "public access" to government arena . Official positions of our government are created by the 3 branches not one. Essentially this ruling says that any government official is barred from unfriending followers if they discuss politics, if it applies to Trump it has to apply to all government employees. Are career government employees now blocked from unfriending or blocking people ? Until they retire - 35 years into their career ? They actually said that his account was private before and will be after he is president -- essentially banning him from having control of his own social media.

    If this is the case how can any campaign escort protesters out of a campaign speech or Presidential address ? Don't they have access under the 1st amendment ?
     
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  16. GT_EE78

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    Does it mean that our "ignore" button is now unconstitutional?
     
  17. Supersizethatorder-mutt

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    A much bigger problem that needs to be addressed is why the social media "giants" are allowed to ban or censor the posts of those (i.e. conservative activists) that they don't like.
     
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    See the Big Tech thread. Some have been arguing that FB, Twitter etc are equivalent to news media. I have been saying the courts will view it as a public accommodation and the 2nd Circuit just ruled that way. The funny thing is that it is libs that filed suit....this will come back to bite them.
     
  19. RonJohn

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    It isn't quite that bad. It says:
    What they said was that if a public official uses social media for official purposes, they they can't exclude people because they disagree with him. When you block someone on Twitter, you don't just keep them from responding to you, you prevent them from reading your posts. So if a socialist activist were to respond to a Twitter post from the President and get blocked, the activist would be prevented from reading future posts from the President. The President's defense was that this is a private account instead of a public one. However, he has made and continues to make official announcements on the account. He also posts items that can lead one to possibly understand his mindset. His Twitter account has basically become an official communications channel for his office. The court ruled that he cannot block people from reading official communications from his office.

    As to questions about the ignore button. The ignore button is different, it keeps you from having to read posts from the other users. It does not prevent the other users from reading your posts. Also, I haven't seen anyone on here who has been using GTSwarm to post official government announcements.

    This decision could have effects on executives of publicly held companies. If an executive blocks a share holder or potential share holder from reading their social media, but posts company information, he could be subject to legal repercussions. Elon Musk has already been fined by the SEC for releasing information on Twitter that affected the stock value and bypassed documents and requirements for publicly traded companies.
     
  20. GT_EE78

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    Ha, I wouldn't have known that. glad u pointed that out. Maybe twitter should just fix the button so a user can keep knuckleheads from posting on his page?
     

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