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<blockquote data-quote="lv20gt" data-source="post: 938164" data-attributes="member: 2299"><p>There are certainly other factors to consider. Not sure how much loyalty to assistants is an issue. Feels like we've had a good amount of assistant turnover. But it's certainly worth looking at assistants as well and wouldn't be surprised to see changes there. The princton is my personal biggest gripe. I think he fell in love with it after year 1 and should have scrapped it for good when we made the change in year 4 mid year. He needs to decide if he wants that to be the base or not and if it is then he has to absolutely make sure he has a big capable of filling that role. Martynov could develop into that, but I doubt he'd be ready next year, and even so I don't really think we've ever been that good at running the Princton. It was a good catch them off guard offense for a year but even then there were things about how we ran it that weren't really good. IMO he needs to abandon it unless he gets an assistant who really knows it inside and out. </p><p></p><p>The early season thing is something that is partially true but I think people get hung up on it because it's an easy talking point but its more effect than cause and the causes aren't consistent. </p><p></p><p>Year 1, I'd argue given the circumstances we got off to a fast start. We didn't end the year strong with the NIT run but prior to that we had gone 3-7 in our last 10. Considering the transition from the coaching change and the new systems, I wouldn't consider this an example of that. </p><p></p><p>Years 2,3, and 6 were just bad years and you could argue we started slow, but it isn't really the same dynamic as some of the others. </p><p></p><p>Year 4 we certainly had a big change in quality, but that was the year that Jose got hurt and Usher has to sit the first half so I'm not sure how much that year projects into the future. The former isn't really something you can coach to prevent, and the latter shouldn't be an issue with the rule changes. </p><p></p><p>Year 5 and 7 (this year) are the most clear examples of that, but they aren't really the same issue but rather had the same, kind of, effect. Year 5 we lost to State and Mercer but even by decemeber we were playing well (5-1 with the lone loss @ranked FSU). I think the staff and players were not mentally ready to start the year and took for granted the first game, and then fatigue (mental and physical) played a part the next night. But from an approach to the season aspect that group was fine. This year we approached the season wrong. We tried to force the issue with Howard at the high post, and with our guards/wings forcing the ball down low to back down opponents. I haven't looked at the stats, but I would be willing to be we took a significantly higher number of 3 pointers over the last 10 games than we did early in the year. Both of those are issues we need to avoid, taking the opposing team for granted and not having a system that fits to our players skills, but it's separate issues. FWIW I'm more worried about the latter as we had a similar issue in year 4 even if injuries were the bigger deal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lv20gt, post: 938164, member: 2299"] There are certainly other factors to consider. Not sure how much loyalty to assistants is an issue. Feels like we've had a good amount of assistant turnover. But it's certainly worth looking at assistants as well and wouldn't be surprised to see changes there. The princton is my personal biggest gripe. I think he fell in love with it after year 1 and should have scrapped it for good when we made the change in year 4 mid year. He needs to decide if he wants that to be the base or not and if it is then he has to absolutely make sure he has a big capable of filling that role. Martynov could develop into that, but I doubt he'd be ready next year, and even so I don't really think we've ever been that good at running the Princton. It was a good catch them off guard offense for a year but even then there were things about how we ran it that weren't really good. IMO he needs to abandon it unless he gets an assistant who really knows it inside and out. The early season thing is something that is partially true but I think people get hung up on it because it's an easy talking point but its more effect than cause and the causes aren't consistent. Year 1, I'd argue given the circumstances we got off to a fast start. We didn't end the year strong with the NIT run but prior to that we had gone 3-7 in our last 10. Considering the transition from the coaching change and the new systems, I wouldn't consider this an example of that. Years 2,3, and 6 were just bad years and you could argue we started slow, but it isn't really the same dynamic as some of the others. Year 4 we certainly had a big change in quality, but that was the year that Jose got hurt and Usher has to sit the first half so I'm not sure how much that year projects into the future. The former isn't really something you can coach to prevent, and the latter shouldn't be an issue with the rule changes. Year 5 and 7 (this year) are the most clear examples of that, but they aren't really the same issue but rather had the same, kind of, effect. Year 5 we lost to State and Mercer but even by decemeber we were playing well (5-1 with the lone loss @ranked FSU). I think the staff and players were not mentally ready to start the year and took for granted the first game, and then fatigue (mental and physical) played a part the next night. But from an approach to the season aspect that group was fine. This year we approached the season wrong. We tried to force the issue with Howard at the high post, and with our guards/wings forcing the ball down low to back down opponents. I haven't looked at the stats, but I would be willing to be we took a significantly higher number of 3 pointers over the last 10 games than we did early in the year. Both of those are issues we need to avoid, taking the opposing team for granted and not having a system that fits to our players skills, but it's separate issues. FWIW I'm more worried about the latter as we had a similar issue in year 4 even if injuries were the bigger deal. [/QUOTE]
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