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What's your typical minimum expectation for a season?

Discussion in 'Georgia Tech Football' started by cyptomcat, Jul 14, 2014.

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What's your typical minimum expectation for a season?

Poll closed Jul 24, 2014.
  1. Top 25 in offense, Top 25 in defense

    16.9%
  2. Top 25 in offense, Top 40 in defense

    54.5%
  3. Top 40 in offense, Top 25 in defense

    2.6%
  4. Top 40 in offense, Top 40 in defense

    13.0%
  5. Top 25 in offense, Top 60 in defense

    10.4%
  6. Top 60 in offense, Top 25 in defense

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Top 60 in offense, Top 60 in defense

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. No minimum expectation

    2.6%
  1. cyptomcat

    cyptomcat Helluva Engineer

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    To emphasize: minimum

    Not specifically for the 2014 season, but on average for any season, what's your minimum expectation?

    Choose closest to what you expect.

    I separated defense and offense to give more nuance to the choices.
     
  2. daBuzz

    daBuzz Helluva Engineer

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    What I would LIKE is top 25 offense & defense. But I have learned to temper my expectations, so now I'm just going with top 40 for both.
     
  3. GTonTop88

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    To add: if we were to have a top 25 offense say 20th and top 40 defense say 38th, do y'all think our record would be better or worse if the rankings were vice versa?
     
  4. cyptomcat

    cyptomcat Helluva Engineer

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    FWIW, using F/+ defense ranks from football outsiders, we were #43 in '08 and #53 in '09.

    So we seem to be able to do well in record with a defense lagging behind offense.

    I like offense to be better just because I would like to watch us score more rather than watch us try to win games with defense.
     
  5. AE 87

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    Not surprisingly, I assumed F/+ ranking. I chose top 25 O and top 40 D. I've been disappointed in D every year and O last year. If you go by traditional ypg or ppg, then I'd say top 40 O and top 25 D.
     
  6. danny daniel

    danny daniel Helluva Engineer

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    Talent level is not likely to be top 25 for either O or D. CPJ's intimate knowledge and experience with his unique scheme of O might get us to top 25. I see Roof making progress and I am extremely hopeful he can produce a D a lot better than his talent, but I doubt that D can get to top 25 without consistent and considerable improvement in D recruiting. I want more than top 25 O and top 40 D but I don't see the talent level getting us there (although the last two recruiting classes give rise to increasing optimism).
     
  7. zhavenor

    zhavenor Helluva Engineer

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    What are we using to define the ranking of offense and defense or is that up to the individual?
     
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  8. cyptomcat

    cyptomcat Helluva Engineer

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    Up to the individual. I think rankings should mostly correlate with each other. I prefer adjusted-for-schedule rankings over raw rankings.
     
  9. GTrob21

    GTrob21 Helluva Engineer

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    expectations.... play hard every game, represent our beloved institute well and don't be an idiot. If you do that, I can handle a loss.
     
  10. AE 87

    AE 87 Helluva Engineer

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    A raw yards/play will "mostly correlate" I suspect but not the per game stats.
     
  11. 4shotB

    4shotB Moderator Staff Member

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    on the surface I would agree. however, after further consideration...I could probably get myself (age 55) and some of my buddies and a few volunteers from this site who would meet your requirements. I really don't think you would be pleased with us at the end of the day despite what your post says.
     
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  12. takethepoints

    takethepoints Helluva Engineer

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    I don't care where we rank in O and D. My minimum expectation is a winning season, period. No more of this 7 - 7 stuff either.
     
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  13. cyptomcat

    cyptomcat Helluva Engineer

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    Yeah, you are right, non Big 5 teams would screw it up. So, probably need to qualify that statement, it correlates well if you ignore teams that are not in Big 5. In other words, if you are in top 25 for PPG for example among Big 5 teams, you will likely be in top 25 for F/+ offense too.
     
  14. AE 87

    AE 87 Helluva Engineer

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    I was thinking also about differences in pace
     
  15. Animal02

    Animal02 Helluva Engineer

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    Anything better than 19-35-2 over 5 years is a good thing...Winning more than 1 game a year over two seasons is a definite plus.

    When you suffer through those times....winning 6 or 7 games a year doesn't look so bad. :whistle:
     
  16. Boomergump

    Boomergump Moderator Staff Member

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    To support the troops....uhh.....players, no matter what.
     
  17. Ibeeballin

    Ibeeballin GT Athlete

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    Top 20 offense and top 20 SCORING Defense. Holding team <=21 should be our goal this year
     
  18. cyptomcat

    cyptomcat Helluva Engineer

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    I didn't expect this from you. What's the last GT team that met these goals?
     
  19. Yoda

    Yoda Helluva Engineer

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    '90?
     
  20. dressedcheeseside

    dressedcheeseside Helluva Engineer

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    Doesn't it really depend on which set of criteria he uses for "top 20"? We've already seen a huge discrepancy from one rating criteria to another in another thread.
     

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