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The US Supreme Court Served Up A Major Defeat To Labor Unions

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    I said it before and I’ll say it again - if anybody is losing their mind over 1 single Justice, their approach to public policy is severely distorted. If that’s the only way an issue (or many) can get resolved for you, you really have to take a closer look at your position on that issue.
     
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    Chris Matthews is a few sandwiches short of a picnic;) It's unbelievable he used to sit in for Rush Limbaugh back in the 1990s when he went on Vacation:rolleyes:
     
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    Chris couldn't handle it when he was told the truth that there was really nothing the Democrats could do to stop the Senate from approving President Trump's pick to replace Justice Kennedy on the Supreme Court:LOL::ROFLMAO::hilarious: Chris Matthews can't deal with the truth if it doesn't fit with the socialistic-communistic propaganda he spews on MSNBC:rolleyes::vomit:
     
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    With all the conversation about unions I have to say this. Its my opinion that Unions were organized by workers who needed protection. Generally they needed protection from unsafe working conditions which the government would not regulate. Once this was established the power of the union was turned to fair wages. I would argue that any fair wage argument is a liberal tactic to manipulate voters and redistribute money.

    I know this is a provocative statement but hear me out. Fair wages is an arbitrary statement. Living wage is a vague statement, both are made by comparisons to the gross revenue of the company in question and in a modern perspective have been used to imply a pay gap between men and women. Rarely do unions demand fair wages from struggling companies nor do they seek to organize in companies whose number of employees are to few to increase the unions bottom line via dues. My neighbor is a driver for UPS, he can’t say this publicly because he fears union retribution, so I will. He is a conservative man and as such spent many a days on my front porch struggling with the fact that his dues, in part, were being spent to promote Bill Clinton, JohnKerry, Hillary Clinton and the Democrats in general. He questioned his ability to deal with a company who while ensuring his employment and pay was in turn using his pay to fund liberals and liberal causes.

    What am I getting at ? I’m saying that while initially unions were a very important aspect of the labor movement in this country, today they have become a political arms of the democrat party. They are funding the liberal cause to such a degree that liberals are targeting The court for term limits and even disimpanelment.

    Today Federal law has set the limits on pay, working conditions and child labor. To a large degree Unions are now political fund raising mechanisms for the left.

    Now I know this will rile a few of you and I dont intend to disparage employees or actual rank and file members, what I do mean to say is that union leadership has married itself to the left with your money and that is unacceptable.
     
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    Well said(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
     
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    Nails it.
     
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    Part of this makes no sense. Why would full dues paying members be dropping out because non-members are no longer compelled to pay? Is the thought now there will be more free riders?
     
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    Nobody who works for the people should have the right to hold that service over the people’s heads.

    Public unions do exactly that. They are different from private unions in that when they strike it effects all of us, when they demand more money and benefits it effects all of us.

    As a public employee I do not feel I have the right to tell you that I won’t show up unless you pay me more.
     
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    The union leadership are scared s**tless that people will stop paying union dues or quit the union all together and their political lobbying and power will go down the toilet.
     
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    If I were these Unions, I would drop non-members from any benefits even tangentially.
     
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    After that Supreme Court ruling i would quit the Union if i were a Government or State employee;)
     
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    The unions need to go back to their roots. Collective bargaining for the benefit of their members. They abused their positions & weakened their unions by demanding excessive benefits which in turn weakened the companies they were bargaining with to the point they became uncompetitive in the marketplace. At that point they could no longer effectively bargain & everyone knew it. In short, they massively overplayed their hands. Secondly, they became an institution whose primary objective became enriching the union leadership and maintaining power over their members.

    Unions can be a positive force for their members if they get back to basics. If not, they’re doomed. Nobody pays for a service for long that is not worth the money they’re paying for it. Capitalism at its finest & the unions never figured it out.
     
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