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<blockquote data-quote="33jacket" data-source="post: 30613" data-attributes="member: 628"><p>i think that is an outside influence all schools deal with....but techs inability to cater to that is an issue...to me the other three are things tech did to themselves period...that other schools didn't do or had to do....but the nfl thing mixes in with my item 3 about rankings and changing the school for that...</p><p></p><p>but the reality is we are seeing ultimate mediocrity with our football program....we are a .500 school vs FBS now...and really the past 15 years above .500 with fbs, not by a ton....but averages say overall we are a 7 win program. And I see this continuing for a while. It happened first in football...due to the difficulty #ships and # of players you need to make a bigtime impact. But I believe, that we are now seeing this in basketball. Although in basketball you only need 2 good recruits to turn the program, the reality is tech standards are harder and the good recruits are planning on a year not 3. So what happens, is schools like Kentucky, UNC etc, that in the past landed great recruits that would stay there for 3 years....now land great recruits that stay their for 1.</p><p></p><p>So in a 3 year span...you see great recruits at lets say UNC...for 1 year only...that means in 3 years UNC can go through 6-10 great recruits for 1 year only. Same with Kentucky. Same with Kansas. What this means...is there are now less of these top impact guys to get to programs like Tech...And because the kids plan on staying for 1 year...they want to go to the big name schools....</p><p></p><p>so tech basketball has to recruit good players and develop them for 3 to 4 years...much like the middle size schools that flash in the pan. But they flash in the pan. That isn't easy to have sustainable success because anytime you have to develop 5 for 3 years....the timing has to be perfect. Where as a Duke can have a few developed...then a few NBA ready and do that every year. So for me tech baskeball is entering a long mediocrity stint too....marked by the 1 year rule, some by the school admissions etc...its just a very mediocre time for our two biggest programs IMO, some self imposed, some changes in the world that Tech is being an Oak about...etc etc...</p><p></p><p>but we need to adapt...One way I see us adapting in football is trying to get more early enrollees....This is a great idea...first it gives our young guys a full season to get acclimated, but since we recruit decent academic guys they can graduate early....it prevents defections...and it allows us to back apply their scholarship to the prior year if we underrecruit which we do all the time....It also lets our staff truly evaluate quicker....and plan the next years class incase they feel a guy is a miss....we need to try to get 4-5 early enrollees each year...this is a great idea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="33jacket, post: 30613, member: 628"] i think that is an outside influence all schools deal with....but techs inability to cater to that is an issue...to me the other three are things tech did to themselves period...that other schools didn't do or had to do....but the nfl thing mixes in with my item 3 about rankings and changing the school for that... but the reality is we are seeing ultimate mediocrity with our football program....we are a .500 school vs FBS now...and really the past 15 years above .500 with fbs, not by a ton....but averages say overall we are a 7 win program. And I see this continuing for a while. It happened first in football...due to the difficulty #ships and # of players you need to make a bigtime impact. But I believe, that we are now seeing this in basketball. Although in basketball you only need 2 good recruits to turn the program, the reality is tech standards are harder and the good recruits are planning on a year not 3. So what happens, is schools like Kentucky, UNC etc, that in the past landed great recruits that would stay there for 3 years....now land great recruits that stay their for 1. So in a 3 year span...you see great recruits at lets say UNC...for 1 year only...that means in 3 years UNC can go through 6-10 great recruits for 1 year only. Same with Kentucky. Same with Kansas. What this means...is there are now less of these top impact guys to get to programs like Tech...And because the kids plan on staying for 1 year...they want to go to the big name schools.... so tech basketball has to recruit good players and develop them for 3 to 4 years...much like the middle size schools that flash in the pan. But they flash in the pan. That isn't easy to have sustainable success because anytime you have to develop 5 for 3 years....the timing has to be perfect. Where as a Duke can have a few developed...then a few NBA ready and do that every year. So for me tech baskeball is entering a long mediocrity stint too....marked by the 1 year rule, some by the school admissions etc...its just a very mediocre time for our two biggest programs IMO, some self imposed, some changes in the world that Tech is being an Oak about...etc etc... but we need to adapt...One way I see us adapting in football is trying to get more early enrollees....This is a great idea...first it gives our young guys a full season to get acclimated, but since we recruit decent academic guys they can graduate early....it prevents defections...and it allows us to back apply their scholarship to the prior year if we underrecruit which we do all the time....It also lets our staff truly evaluate quicker....and plan the next years class incase they feel a guy is a miss....we need to try to get 4-5 early enrollees each year...this is a great idea. [/QUOTE]
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