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<blockquote data-quote="lv20gt" data-source="post: 911383" data-attributes="member: 2299"><p>Interesting topic. One quick observation. Mike shot 39% from the three as a freshman, 44% in conference. That isn't slumping badly. He was lacking a bit of aggression and would add basically an attempt per game every year he played and raised his overall FGA by 4 between his freshman and sophomore year and then again by about 2 last year. He didn't average double digits but he averaged 9.7 on a team with a soph PG and no other good wing threats to draw attention. Also, usually the freshmen with the true stand out success as freshmen are those who can create their own shot and usually do more off the dribble. Which makes sense because off ball movement and chemistry with the team is less developed early usually. Even so, if you compare freshman production that year I'd bet Devoe's compares favorably when set next to his ranking, although it's just a guess. </p><p></p><p>IMO I think last year's recruiting was a bit weird. Last year's team we had Coleman, Kelly, Moore, Smith, Maxwell, Meka, and Gigiberia who were freshmen by eligibility. I think that contributed a lot to the lack of urgency in landing players in the class. Taking Franklin and Terry gives us players more likely to contribute right away and also helps balance the classes. </p><p></p><p>Also, while Bobby often played freshmen a lot, his best teams usually also featured 3 or 4 upperclassmen that were part of the core. However, at that time you could rely on even the best players staying 3 or 4 years so you could transition your young star freshmen into that role of the upperclassmen core. Now it isn't as easy. If you have a freshmen you really think can give you 15+ a night year 1, you probably can't rely on them to be there in years 3 and 4. Hell, we saw that with Okogie and he wasn't even on anyone's early departure radar prior to his freshman year. I think Pastner would certainly take an instant impact player in the right circumstance, but I think it would be as a final piece of a puzzle rather than the cornerstone of the team type of thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lv20gt, post: 911383, member: 2299"] Interesting topic. One quick observation. Mike shot 39% from the three as a freshman, 44% in conference. That isn't slumping badly. He was lacking a bit of aggression and would add basically an attempt per game every year he played and raised his overall FGA by 4 between his freshman and sophomore year and then again by about 2 last year. He didn't average double digits but he averaged 9.7 on a team with a soph PG and no other good wing threats to draw attention. Also, usually the freshmen with the true stand out success as freshmen are those who can create their own shot and usually do more off the dribble. Which makes sense because off ball movement and chemistry with the team is less developed early usually. Even so, if you compare freshman production that year I'd bet Devoe's compares favorably when set next to his ranking, although it's just a guess. IMO I think last year's recruiting was a bit weird. Last year's team we had Coleman, Kelly, Moore, Smith, Maxwell, Meka, and Gigiberia who were freshmen by eligibility. I think that contributed a lot to the lack of urgency in landing players in the class. Taking Franklin and Terry gives us players more likely to contribute right away and also helps balance the classes. Also, while Bobby often played freshmen a lot, his best teams usually also featured 3 or 4 upperclassmen that were part of the core. However, at that time you could rely on even the best players staying 3 or 4 years so you could transition your young star freshmen into that role of the upperclassmen core. Now it isn't as easy. If you have a freshmen you really think can give you 15+ a night year 1, you probably can't rely on them to be there in years 3 and 4. Hell, we saw that with Okogie and he wasn't even on anyone's early departure radar prior to his freshman year. I think Pastner would certainly take an instant impact player in the right circumstance, but I think it would be as a final piece of a puzzle rather than the cornerstone of the team type of thing. [/QUOTE]
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