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The Biggest Political Scandal In The Last Several Decades

Discussion in 'The Swarm Lounge' started by bwelbo, Oct 25, 2017.

  1. MWBATL

    MWBATL Helluva Engineer

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    Speaking of “quid pro quo”, why aren’t folks enraged at Bloomberg, who has carefully donated millions to liberal groups, who (surprise, surprise!!) all endorsed him now?

    Quid pro quo is how things have always worked, in NYC and in DC
     
  2. LibertyTurns

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    Below is the FISC rebuke of the FBI:

    A. The FBI provided false information to the National Security Division (NSD) of the DOJ and withheld information which was detrimental to the FBI’s case....
    B. It documents troubling instances in which the FBI personnel provided NSD which was unsupported or contradicted information in their possession.
    C. It also describes several instances in which the FBI withheld from the NSD information in their possession ....
    D. An attorney in the FBI’s Office of General Counsel (OGC) engaged in conduct that apparently was intended to mislead the FBI agent that swore to the facts in that application....
    E. Because the conduct of the OGC attorney gave rise to serious concerns about the accuracy and completeness of the information provided to the FISC....
    F. The FBI’s conduct was antithetical to the heightened degree of candor described above (my words in the FISC application)
    G. The frequency With representations made by FBI personnel Turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether Information contained in other applications is reliable.

    Not my words this is from a pissed off court. This was a complete beatdown by someone that trusted the FBI and got repeatedly lied to and decived.


    https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/MIsc 19 02 191217.pdf
     
  3. bwelbo

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    Trump is looking at Congressman Doug Collins to lead the spy agencies. Democrats are pushing back, saying a partisan shouldn’t be in charge of our intelligence agencies. I mean, you can’t make this stuff up LOLOLOLOL.
     
  4. armeck

    armeck Ramblin' Wreck

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    If by "folks" you mean Democrats and liberals, pretty much everyone who is not a current Bloomberg supporter is saying precisely that - he is trying to buy his way into the election.
     
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  5. armeck

    armeck Ramblin' Wreck

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    Doug Collins is embarrassing to watch...
     
  6. GT_EE78

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    although you'd be correct to assert that there's no hard evidence linking Rich to the DNC leaks, there's also virtually no one left who is dumb enough to believe the RUSSIAN hacking propaganda. If you read any of the credible news sources, then you're already aware that meta data of the wikee files of the leaked DNC emails has been examined and found to have been time stamped in est time zone with download speeds that proved they had to have been from a hardware interface.Maybe when the DNC sent their servers to Ukraine instead of the FBI , that should have given you a clue?
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  7. armeck

    armeck Ramblin' Wreck

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    Wow, sounds salacious. Do you have a link or two to a credible news source so I can be as informed as you are?

    Also, pretty much every technological detail you just wrote makes no sense at all...
     
  8. LibertyTurns

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    These are the same people that hand their credit card info, SSN, birth date, home address and phone number over to the internet scammer and still haven’t figured out how their bank account got emptied while their waiting on the $5M package to arrive.
     
  9. bwelbo

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    Of course irrespective of any of what you just typed, whether true or not, the federal government has never seen or touched the hacked servers. They have testified in court in writing they have no physical evidence that the Russians hacked the DNC. They are going off second and third hand information. That in and of itself is pitiful.
     
  10. LibertyTurns

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    Back to @GT_EE78 point. If you really wanted to know what went on you would have handed the servers over to the FBI, not the Ukranians. Another alternative was there was there was significant evidence of criminal activity on those servers & there was no way to broker a deal to avoid being prosecuted. A different possibility is the server was the source of the “Russian” hacking. Perhaps someone running for President did not trust her own party?

    For the record if I come up dead, I did not shoot myself in the back of the head.
     
  11. armeck

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    https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...alse-claims-about-ukraine-dnc-server-n1089596
    https://www.wired.com/story/trump-ukraine-server-delusion-spreading/
    https://theintercept.com/2019/11/22/sure-even-fox-questions-trumps-ukraine-conspiracy-theory/
     
  12. bwelbo

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    Wow! So not only did the federal government never touch, hold, or analyze the hacked servers, neither did crowdstrike. I never knew that. So our federal government is basing their evidence on THIRD HAND information - documentation that crowdstrike sent them based on documentation that the DNC sent them. Incredible incompetence.
     
  13. Supersizethatorder-mutt

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    That's because you hate Trump. I think he is a terrific congressman and would be an equally terrific senator. Unfortunately, our stupid governor put a totally inexperienced woman in the spot for reasons unknown to anyone.
     
  14. armeck

    armeck Ramblin' Wreck

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    Actually I don't like Collins because I literally don't like Collins. He comes off as a dumb, blowhard. Loeffler has the personality of a stale piece of white bread, so if he goes against her I think he'll definitely win the Repub votes for Senate since loud and offensive Trumpers are dominating right now.

    Not quite.
     
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  15. bwelbo

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    Exactly. Neither CrowdStrike nor the Federal Government have ever had possession of the servers. CrowdStrike used the documentation sent from the DNC, and the federal government used the documentation sent to them from CrowdStrike.

    If we don't think the federal government and our intelligence services have better cybersecurity and analyzation tools than a political party, we're in deep deep doo doo. Of course the answer is that we have light years better secret technologies, hacks, and tools than any company or organization. With something so important and critical as a hack into the DNC, which may have affected the outcome of the election, for our federal government to use third hand information is just really sad.
     
  16. bwelbo

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    Guess who the latest Prosecutor is in the Roger Stone case after the others resigned - JP Cooney. Despite McCabe admitting he lied under oath and despite having been referred for prosecution, guess who authored the letter that the DOJ would not go forward with the prosecution............JP Cooney. You can't make this crap up.

    https://www.politico.com/states/flo...tone-sentencing-still-on-for-thursday-1261896
    "The new prosecution team consists of J.P. Cooney and John Crabb"

    McCabe letter, signed by Cooney.
     
  17. armeck

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    Do you know what "imaging" is from a technology standpoint?

    EDIT: It is not documentation as you keep saying...
     
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  18. bwelbo

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    Yes, I've been in technology for 20 years.

    If you worked for our intelligence services and the DNC had been hacked, potentially by a foreign country - would you trust me to send you everything you needed, or would you be more comfortable doing everything yourself, and bringing to bear all the tools and capabilities that our intelligence services have? And if I refused to send you the servers themselves, or to let you come analyze them directly, wouldn't you wonder what I was up to? Why would I care? What might I have done before taking an image of the machines?
     
  19. GT_EE78

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    $$$ , that gov will have no problems financing his next campaign thanks to team Mitch. The cheap labor globalist along with Gov both need to be primaried. Collins was outstanding during the house hearings and is an honorable guy with good values. Thats why radicals attack him so viciously.
     
  20. bwelbo

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    John Brennan yesterday accused Trump of “aiding and abetting Russia”. Here we go again. From a guy who lied under oath, used fraudulent information to help spy on an opposition campaign he despised. Besides, does Brennan really think with all the harsh sanctions and what-not Trump and this Congress has done to Russia, that they would actually choose him over the socialist/communist Bernie Sanders? I mean, get serious.
     

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