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The Biggest Political Scandal In The Last Several Decades

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  1. GT_EE78

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    Barr gets a reprieve!!! (Kidding)



    I wonder why they decided to postpone the meeting all of a sudden. Must be some back office politicking going on. The article also hints that more will be discussed than Barr's actions. Good.

    No date was mentioned for getting the meeting going again.
     
  3. Supersizethatorder-mutt

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    They postponed it because they know they don't have a leg to stand on.
     
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    Yes and democrats see no crimes in lying to a federal judge in order to surveil a citizen yet Trump asking Ukraine to investigate Biden is impeachable, even when Hunter is making 83 a month. It takes willful blindness not see problems with what the investigators and democrats have done. Nothing Trump has done is insurmountable, all can be reversed if you are inclined but the total disregard of lawful criminal investigation practices is the actual big threat that is taking place under Trump, it’s brought to you by the anti trump establishment and it’s to protect their freedom and pockets.

    Trump is a jerk without a leash, in DC that’s a threat to a lot of people, they will do what they need to to stop him, lawful or not
     
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    Imagine a world where Federal judges met to discuss DOJ matters and presumably how to address them. It’s almost like the judges are interfering with the DOJ, not their job to referee the issues on the defense or prosecution, it’s their job to apply the law as a neutral party, to the trial.
     
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    Trump just nominated a total Intelligence outsider to head up those 17 agencies. Good. Why do we have 17 Intelligence agencies in the first place? Hopefully he walks into the office on day strapped full of bombs and brings it all down. We need to start over.
     
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    So once again we have proven that the media are full of terrible fake journalists, who publish stories stating that Trump offered Assange a pardon...Even though the central figure in their story states unequivocally that Trump did not offer Assange a pardon, and the offer was based upon some thing Assange had already been stating openly in the public for a year anyway.

    Sad.
     
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    The media has reported that the lawyer for Assange has made this claim.
     
  10. armeck

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    Are you cool with him being an openly gay man?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Grenell#Personal_life
     
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    Good point. So I guess we’re back to the same original question – why would a lawyer make a claim that a pardon was offered for making a public statement that the guy had already been making public statements about for a year?

    The journalist should’ve laughed at them instead of writing the story. But they are probably clueless about current events.
     
  13. armeck

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    You are right, you have, many here have not. So I was just tossing out the question.
     
  14. armeck

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    Huh.
    https://news.yahoo.com/rohrabacher-...of-russia-didnt-hack-dnc-email-131438007.html
     
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    How many times do you need to re-post the same thing?

    Read the story. In it, it says that in August 2017, Dana Rohrabacker offered Assange a pardon on behalf of Trump if he were to state publicly that Russia was not the source of the hacked emails.

    Keep reading.

    Rohrabacker says he never spoke to Trump about this and Trump says he never spoke to Rohrabacker about this. Both sides deny such an offer ever existed from the White House.

    That's point 1.

    Point 2 - Assange had already been stating publicly FOR A YEAR that Russia was not his source of the hacked emails. So the whole notion of getting him to state that publicly in return for a pardon is nonsensical. He had already been doing so for a year.

    There, I typed the same thing back to you again. The whole story makes no sense.
     
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    The Judge today asked the prosecutor at Stone's sentencing why he was there instead of the original team (who quit) and what was going on. He said there was a 'miscommunication' between the prosecution team and the DOJ. LOL. Yea, they told the DOJ what they would recommend, the DOJ signed off on it, and then they recommended something significantly longer. LOL. That's definitely a miscommunication.

    She then sentenced him to 40 months in prison, which is suspended pending a decision on a new trial. During the sentencing, she stated that Stone is being sentenced for covering up for Trump. That's another reason for an appeal - that's absolutely not what he was doing, and its scary the judge thinks that. He lied and told people he had a connection to WikiLeaks to try and seem like he was a big man. When Mueller interviewed Stone to ask if he had connections to WikiLeaks, he said no (the truth). They then asked if he had told anybody otherwise, and he said no (a lie). He told Randy Credo to lie and say the same thing and threatened him if he did otherwise.

    None of this is 'covering for Trump'. Stone didn't have a connection to Russia or WikiLeaks - he never communicated with either. There wasn't anything to cover up for Trump. The judge just opened another hole the size of a school bus for Stone to drive his appeal car through.
     
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    Yesterday, Dana denied it. Today he admits it, but that Trump didn't know about it. It is a different revelation from yesterday - that's Point 1.

    He was asking Assange to offer PROOF (not just say it, but proof) and if he did, he'd secure a pardon for him - that's Point 2.
     
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    Cool, then we're making progress. So the bottom line is that the story was fake news. Trump was never involved in any of it.
     
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    We've moved from "I never said that!" to "I said it, but I did it on my own!" in one day... let's see where it ends up.
     
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    He said the same thing originally too. If you go back and read the original story, that's exactly what he said.

    And in fact, embedded in the link you posted yesterday was an interview Rohrabacker gave nearly 3 years ago. This is not just fake news, but its old news. He said then, as he said now, that he thought it would be smart for Trump to dangle something for Assange to help prove the Russia collusion allegation was pure BS. Trump wasn't then or now ever alleged to have been involved.

    Not sure why anybody would care anyway. A quid pro quo once again to prove the lying seditious idiots were in fact lying seditious idiots. The lying seditious idiots aren't the problem, but the guy who exposes him is. Seems normal.
     
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