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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AE 87" data-source="post: 7698" data-attributes="member: 195">My problem with this thread is that it seems to conflate two issues: (1) GT's recruiting and (2) Stanford as a point of comparison.On the first point, I agree that we shouldn't make excuses and be satisfied with poor recruiting at GT.  We shouldn't stick our fingers in our ears and cover our eyes about the challenges we face with respect to curriculum choice, entrance requirements, and the type of intelligence needed to thrive academically at Tech, but we should take those as challenges not as excuses.On the second point, I think the straight comparison to Stanford, Notre Dame, and Northwestern is simple-minded.  Each one of those schools is private, so we don't have the same access to the academic qualifications of their incoming classes that we have with state universities.  In the case of Stanford, we do have pretty solid information that they loosened entrance requirements to get football players in and then took other measures to keep them successful.  Again, curriculum choice should not be used as an excuse, but it shouldn't be ignored when comparing programs.  There are a lot of traditional students that graduate with great GPAs in the Liberal Arts from places like Stanford and Northwestern who would struggle with most programs at Tech.</blockquote>