QB question

GT Tennessee

Jolly Good Fellow
Messages
239
So honestly does Tobias have a chance to be our starter? Asking all the former players who’ve seen him a practice. While I’m excited about coach Collins, I would’ve love to see Tobias in CPJs offense as a full time starter. Would’ve shattered a lot of records by the time he left IMO.
 

g0lftime

Helluva Engineer
Messages
5,915
The QB will need to show they can throw on the run. If he can do that well he has as good a shot as the others. I still thought LJ looked best in spring game before he was hurt and that included TM. Whichever one of them can read defenses and put the ball in the right spot will be big. Not sure the previous O had as many pass progressions.
 

stinger 1957

Helluva Engineer
Messages
1,473
bobongo said:
Exactly. I'm not expecting to see an impenetrable wall of pass blocking this year. Time in the pocket might be quite fleeting.
Click to expand...

I'm really afraid you guys are right, CBK good coach but he needs kids that fit what he teaches IMO. Not sure he presently has many of those. Gonna be an interesting fall.
 
Ibeeballin

Ibeeballin

Im a 3*
Messages
6,081
bobongo said:
Exactly. I'm not expecting to see an impenetrable wall of pass blocking this year. Time in the pocket might be quite fleeting.
Click to expand...

Well they’re already accustomed to that so who ever can make the quickest read to get the ball out to it’s hit read and can make a few plays with their feet will be the guy.

Hard have a take on TO bc he was injured. Throws better than most think so he’s capable of being the starter but i don’t he will be more than a short yardage runner
 
LibertyTurns

LibertyTurns

Banned
Messages
6,216
dressedcheeseside said:
Whomever can manage to move the ball with a porous OL will be the starter. That may have more to do with the quarterback’s wheels than wing.
Click to expand...
These are the same group of guys that practiced complex run blocking schemes. Surely they can master the hug & release technique required for pass blocking. Shaq Mason didn’t seem to have any issues picking it up in one preseason despite never having played in this kind of high speed NFL offense at the college level.
 
herb

herb

Helluva Engineer
Messages
1,039
LibertyTurns said:
These are the same group of guys that practiced complex run blocking schemes. Surely they can master the hug & release technique required for pass blocking. Shaq Mason didn’t seem to have any issues picking it up in one preseason despite never having played in this kind of high speed NFL offense at the college level.
Click to expand...

Lol, true. If we now get the benefit of the way they call the game now we should be fine. If not just go the way of BC when Matt Ryan was there. Hold on every single play and the refs will just get tired of calling it
 

gt02

Ramblin' Wreck
Messages
634
herb said:
Lol, true. If we now get the benefit of the way they call the game now we should be fine. If not just go the way of BC when Matt Ryan was there. Hold on every single play and the refs will just get tired of calling it
Click to expand...
I remember being at that game. How frustrating.
 
bobongo

bobongo

Helluva Engineer
Messages
7,571
LibertyTurns said:
These are the same group of guys that practiced complex run blocking schemes. Surely they can master the hug & release technique required for pass blocking. Shaq Mason didn’t seem to have any issues picking it up in one preseason despite never having played in this kind of high speed NFL offense at the college level.
Click to expand...

It's more than technique, it's ability. Shaq Mason doing it and your average offensive guard doing it are two different things altogether. But we've got some good people and a good OL coach. It's just going to be really interesting to see what happens this year all along the line.
 
4shotB

4shotB

Helluva Engineer
Retired Staff
Messages
4,935
herb said:
Lol, true. If we now get the benefit of the way they call the game now we should be fine. If not just go the way of BC when Matt Ryan was there. Hold on every single play and the refs will just get tired of calling it
Click to expand...

having played some basketball, I've always felt like teams can and should adapt to the variations in the refs from game to game. If the refs allow holding, then by all means hold rather than gripe about the refs. It's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness etc. The refs are not perfect, so adapt to them. baseball players have to do this as well in regards to the strike zone. It is different from ump to ump.
 

Oldgoldandwhite

Helluva Engineer
Messages
5,761
OP, if the season started tomorrow, I would put him at number 3. And this is coming from a big fan of his since High School. He’s definitely tough enough, a strong runner, and has all the intangibles. But not sure on his passing. If we can’t compete 55-60 percent of our passes, it may be a long season. I hope I’m wrong.
 

takethepoints

Helluva Engineer
Messages
6,095
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Tobias start if we are serious about running the ball. I posted a short film about Kansas State's 2016 season when Bill Synder was there. Tobias is just like Jesse Erst, their great QB that year. Ernst ran the ball consistently and it paid off when he passed. The opposing D's had to keep an eye out for Erst; he usually led the team in both passing and rushing. They didn't dare come in full tilt and pass protection was no problem.

Problem = will Patenaude do this? The personnel would seem to dictate it and that would mean any of the top three could start. Tobias would be most likely if the rock-em-sock-em school of running prevailed. But I doubt Patenaude will do that; he seems addicted to "balance", even if the personnel don't make it likely to be efficient. I think the actual performance in the games will tell the final tale. If Lucas does well - and there's no reason he shouldn't; he can run too - then we'll roll on as planned. If we stumble badly out of the gate - losing to USF, Temple, and UNC, for example - I think Tobias and Graham will get a shot at righting the ship.
 
Top