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<blockquote data-quote="YlJacket" data-source="post: 859842" data-attributes="member: 2784"><p>Interesting reading the different perspectives today. For the heck of it I'll give my reality:</p><p></p><p>1) The issues on this team go way beyond just the 5 spot. Beyond a functional 5, it was pretty well known we had to have the PG spot step up and have the young uns come in as legit scoring threats. None of those 3 happened - not just the 5. And to be clear Howard doesn't fix the 5 spot if he is healthy.</p><p></p><p>2) I do think Usher and Devoe have lived up to their part of the bargain - though I don't think they have been utilized correctly (see below)</p><p></p><p>3) We are a year behind in recruiting for this year's team. We needed developmental bigs in the pipeline a year earlier to be ready for this year and the young uns don't seem to be quite there yet. To be clear, I do think that both our bigs and young uns can and will be legit ACC players but it will be late this year or next year - too late for this year and we will now be faced with replacing Usher and Devoe for next year. So I don't see a way forward for next year without at least 2 big wins in the transfer portal.</p><p></p><p>4) This has not been Pastner's best coaching job from a strategic perspective. I am not joining the "fire CJP" crowd or saying he is a "bad coach" - but he missed badly in how he put together the strategies for the team this year - especially on the offensive end. The 5 spot wasn't supposed to be a key offensive threat this year but he installed a princeton offense that ran through the 5 spot. They have to pass with anticipation and handle the ball in addition to having to make a 15 footer to make this work. Terrible idea just at that level. Beyond that the offense doesn't spread any defense and requires your players to make plays in crowded space. If you look at our 2 key scorers - Usher and Devoe - they both do better in space and in an uptempo offense. Instead we ask them to get the ball at the elbow and drive through multiple help defenders (off the 5 spot and our corner supposed shooters) when Devoe in particular is not the most explosive athlete to get through that. This is a decision that CJP should have known enough in off season and pre season workouts to know wasn't going to work.</p><p></p><p>5) The way we played against ND is closer to the core system we should be using this year than the modified princeton stuff. We ran 5 out and 4 out sets which gave both Usher and Devoe a lot more space to operate in and especially with Usher you saw the benefit. But also made things easier and fit better with Sturdivant, Moore, Deebo, et al. Get out of the f'n phone booth and play to the strengths we do have instead of trying to force things through a square peg that doesn't fit. Its anecdotal, but note we went back to the princeton set with Usher at the elbow at the end of the game yesterday and couldn't score when we needed to. </p><p></p><p>To answer the obvious retorts - no you can't play small all the time and there are times you need a true 5 for defense if nothing else. And ND is the perfect team for us to play small against. Note though that Miami beat Duke playing small yesterday but had a defensive energy in digging down I haven't seen from us this year. And they sure as hadies didn't try to play through their big - instead they played to their strengths. </p><p></p><p>We can play Usher and Moore as our bigs against a lot of the ACC going forward but not all. So we will need to find ways to have any of the 3 bigs on the court without taking away all the space for the others. Put them at the dunker spot and let them set screens but make the guards/wings the primary ball handlers. However, the reality for this year is even if we had played more to our strengths we would have maybe a couple more wins - maybe. But I do think we would be in better shape with more comfort in getting the ball to shooters in position to score for the rest of the games. But given #3 above, this year wasn't going to be a dancing year most likely. Certainly not now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="YlJacket, post: 859842, member: 2784"] Interesting reading the different perspectives today. For the heck of it I'll give my reality: 1) The issues on this team go way beyond just the 5 spot. Beyond a functional 5, it was pretty well known we had to have the PG spot step up and have the young uns come in as legit scoring threats. None of those 3 happened - not just the 5. And to be clear Howard doesn't fix the 5 spot if he is healthy. 2) I do think Usher and Devoe have lived up to their part of the bargain - though I don't think they have been utilized correctly (see below) 3) We are a year behind in recruiting for this year's team. We needed developmental bigs in the pipeline a year earlier to be ready for this year and the young uns don't seem to be quite there yet. To be clear, I do think that both our bigs and young uns can and will be legit ACC players but it will be late this year or next year - too late for this year and we will now be faced with replacing Usher and Devoe for next year. So I don't see a way forward for next year without at least 2 big wins in the transfer portal. 4) This has not been Pastner's best coaching job from a strategic perspective. I am not joining the "fire CJP" crowd or saying he is a "bad coach" - but he missed badly in how he put together the strategies for the team this year - especially on the offensive end. The 5 spot wasn't supposed to be a key offensive threat this year but he installed a princeton offense that ran through the 5 spot. They have to pass with anticipation and handle the ball in addition to having to make a 15 footer to make this work. Terrible idea just at that level. Beyond that the offense doesn't spread any defense and requires your players to make plays in crowded space. If you look at our 2 key scorers - Usher and Devoe - they both do better in space and in an uptempo offense. Instead we ask them to get the ball at the elbow and drive through multiple help defenders (off the 5 spot and our corner supposed shooters) when Devoe in particular is not the most explosive athlete to get through that. This is a decision that CJP should have known enough in off season and pre season workouts to know wasn't going to work. 5) The way we played against ND is closer to the core system we should be using this year than the modified princeton stuff. We ran 5 out and 4 out sets which gave both Usher and Devoe a lot more space to operate in and especially with Usher you saw the benefit. But also made things easier and fit better with Sturdivant, Moore, Deebo, et al. Get out of the f'n phone booth and play to the strengths we do have instead of trying to force things through a square peg that doesn't fit. Its anecdotal, but note we went back to the princeton set with Usher at the elbow at the end of the game yesterday and couldn't score when we needed to. To answer the obvious retorts - no you can't play small all the time and there are times you need a true 5 for defense if nothing else. And ND is the perfect team for us to play small against. Note though that Miami beat Duke playing small yesterday but had a defensive energy in digging down I haven't seen from us this year. And they sure as hadies didn't try to play through their big - instead they played to their strengths. We can play Usher and Moore as our bigs against a lot of the ACC going forward but not all. So we will need to find ways to have any of the 3 bigs on the court without taking away all the space for the others. Put them at the dunker spot and let them set screens but make the guards/wings the primary ball handlers. However, the reality for this year is even if we had played more to our strengths we would have maybe a couple more wins - maybe. But I do think we would be in better shape with more comfort in getting the ball to shooters in position to score for the rest of the games. But given #3 above, this year wasn't going to be a dancing year most likely. Certainly not now. [/QUOTE]
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