Paul Johnson era recruiting

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Ok... So I always here that Coach Johnson doesn't bring any 4 and 5 stars and only recruits 2 and 3 stars...
I have compiled a list of All time 4 stars & 2 stars or less recruited in the Paul Johnson era...

Total 4 stars recruited

12 - 247
18- yahoo rivals
18 - ESPN

Total 2 stars or less recruited
21 - 247
39- yahoo rivals
25 - ESPN

ALL Time Four Star Recruits under Coach Paul Johnson

4-Star Recruits 247
2008 OL Omoregie Uzzi
2009 DT J.C. Lanier
2009 DB Rod Sweeting
2010 DB Louis Young
2010 DT Denzel McCoy
2010 DE Anthony Williams
2012 DL Francis Kallon
2012 QB Justin Thomas
2013 OL Shamire Devine
2014 Myles Autry
2017 LB Bruce Jordan-Swilling
2018 DB Jaylon King

4-Star Recruits yahoo rivals
2008 OL Omoregie Uzzi
2009 DT J.C. Lanier
2010 DB Louis Young
2010 DT Denzel McCoy
2010 DE Anthony Williams
2010 DB Ryan Ayers
2010 RB Barry Bostic
2011 LB Jabari Hunt Days
2012 DL Francis Kallon
2012 QB Justin Thomas
2014 DB Step Durham
2016 DE Jordan Woods
2017 LB Bruce Jordan-Swilling
2017 DB Tre Swilling
2017 DB Kaleb Oliver
2017 DB Gentry Bonds
2018 DB Jaylon King
2018 LB Justice Dingle

4-Star Recruits ESPN
ESPN didn’t start stars until 2010

2010 DT Denzel McCoy
2010 DB Ryan Ayers
2010 DT Shawn Green
2011 QB Vad Lee (ESPN Top 150 recruit)
2012 DL Francis Kallon
2012 QB Justin Thomas
2014 DB Step Durham
2014 RB CJ Leggett
2014 AB Myles Autry (ESPN Top 300 Recruit)
2014 LB Terrell Lewis
2015 QB Jaylend Ratliffe
2015 DE Anree Saint-Amour
2016 OL Parker Braun (ESPN Top 300 recruit)
2017 LB Bruce Jordan-Swilling (ESPN Top 300 recruit)
2017 DB Tre Swilling (ESPN Top 300 recruit)
2017 LB Jaquan Henderson
2017 DB Jaytlin Askew
2018 DT TK Chimedaz

ALL Time Two Star or less Recruits under Coach Paul Johnson

2-Star Recruits 247
2008 OL Phil Smith
2008 QB Tevin Washington
2008 WR Dan McKayhan
2008 WR Quentin Sims
2008 DE Antonio Wilson
2009 DB Carl Miles
2011 WR Corey Dennis
2011 LB Sean Tobin
2011 DE Kyle Travis
2011 DE Tyler Marcordes
2012 K Ryan Rodwell
2013 QB Ty Griffin
2013 LB Paul Davis
2013 DB Cory Griffin
2014 RB Clinton Lynch
2016 WR Jalen Camp
2016 OL Jahaziel Lee
2016 DB Ajani Kerr
2017 K Brenton king
2017 WR Adonicas Sanders
2018 RB C’Bo Flemister

2-Star Recruits or less yahoo Rivals
2008 WR Kamaron Riley
2008 DB Cooper Taylor
2008 DB Rahsaad reid
2008 OL Phil Smith
2008 QB Tevin Washington
2008 WR Dan McKayhan
2008 WR Quentin Sims
2008 DE Antonio Wilson
2009 LB Julian Burnett
2009 DB Lance Richardson
2009 DB Carl Miles
2010 K Justin Moore
2010 RB Tony Zenon
2011 RB Zach Laskey
2011 LB Sean Tobin
2011 DE Kyle Travis
2011 DE Jimmie Kitchen
2012 K Ryan Rodwell
2012 DT Adam Gotsis
2013 WR Antonio Messick
2013 QB Ty Griffin
2013 LB Paul Davis
2013 DB Cory Griffin
2014 OL Jake Whitley
2014 AB Clinton Lynch
2014 DB Shaun Kagawa
2016 LB Jake Brasher
2016 OL Kenny Cooper
2016 WR Jalen Camp
2016 DE Desmond Branch
2016 WR J. Hawkins-Anderson
2016 OL Jahaziel Lee
2016 DB Ajani Kerr
2017 K Brenton king
2017 DB Tariq Carpenter
2017 OL Boe Tufele
2017 WR Adonicas Sanders
2018 OL Harrison Jump
2018 RB C’Bo Flemister



2-Star Recruits ESPN
ESPN didn’t start stars until 2010

2010 RB Deon Hill
2010 RB Tony Zenon
2010 K Justin Moore
2010 QB Synjyn Days
2011 OL Shaq Mason
2011 DE Jimmie Kitchens
2011 WR Cory Dennis
2011 LB Sean Tobin
2011 DE Tyler Marcordes
2012 LB Beau Hankins
2012 DB Lynn Griffin
2012 OL Freddie Burden
2012 DL Adam Gostis
2012 DE Travin Henry
2013 QB Ty Griffin
2013 LB Paul Davis
2013 DB Cory Griffin
2014 RB Clinton Lynch
2014 DE Kenderius whitehead
2015 WR Brad Stewart
2016 QB Lucas Johnson
2016 DB Ajani Kerr
2017 QB Tobias Oliver
2017 WR Adonicas sanders
2018 RB C’Bo Flemister
 

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For those wondering the rest of the team was made up of 3 stars

Total 3 stars recruited Paul Johnson era (2008 - present)
181 - 247
164 - yahoo rivals
130 - ESPN
 

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I always look at that 2010 class and think about how pumped I was about the D-Line prospects we got that year (Denzel McCoy, Anthony Williams, and Shawn Green were the headliners) and the prospects we got in the secondary (two 4-star CBs in Ryan Ayers and Louis Young).
 

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Average players = average results.

Yep, this is so true. We are competing with schools like Air Force and Wofford for recruits right now. Until that changes, we can expect 5-7 wins per year.


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UgagSucks

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This is such bulls**t

It's a fact.

I take it you are happy with how we've recruited the past few years?

I have not pulled the stats but I wonder how long it has been since we have finished with a top 3 class in our own conference?


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It's a fact.

I take it you are happy with how we've recruited the past few years?

I have not pulled the stats but I wonder how long it has been since we have finished with a top 3 class in our own conference?


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Georgia Tech has finished with a top 3 class in the ACC only 1 time in school history. We have always been below average at recruiting, it’s not a recent development.
 

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It's a fact.

I take it you are happy with how we've recruited the past few years?

I have not pulled the stats but I wonder how long it has been since we have finished with a top 3 class in our own conference?


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Quit trying to put words in my mouth. You assertion was garbage based on facts. I'm not sure Tech has ever had a top 3 class in conference, so?

As to the classes of '16, '17 and how '18 is shaping up, yes I am happy. If you're not you're blind to the talent being brought in.
 

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Ok... So I always here that Coach Johnson doesn't bring any 4 and 5 stars and only recruits 2 and 3 stars...
I have compiled a list of All time 4 stars & 2 stars or less recruited in the Paul Johnson era...

Total 4 stars recruited

12 - 247
18- yahoo rivals
18 - ESPN

Total 2 stars or less recruited
21 - 247
39- yahoo rivals
25 - ESPN

ALL Time Four Star Recruits under Coach Paul Johnson

4-Star Recruits 247
2008 OL Omoregie Uzzi
2009 DT J.C. Lanier
2009 DB Rod Sweeting
2010 DB Louis Young
2010 DT Denzel McCoy
2010 DE Anthony Williams
2012 DL Francis Kallon
2012 QB Justin Thomas
2013 OL Shamire Devine
2014 Myles Autry
2017 LB Bruce Jordan-Swilling
2018 DB Jaylon King

4-Star Recruits yahoo rivals
2008 OL Omoregie Uzzi
2009 DT J.C. Lanier
2010 DB Louis Young
2010 DT Denzel McCoy
2010 DE Anthony Williams
2010 DB Ryan Ayers
2010 RB Barry Bostic
2011 LB Jabari Hunt Days
2012 DL Francis Kallon
2012 QB Justin Thomas
2014 DB Step Durham
2016 DE Jordan Woods
2017 LB Bruce Jordan-Swilling
2017 DB Tre Swilling
2017 DB Kaleb Oliver
2017 DB Gentry Bonds
2018 DB Jaylon King
2018 LB Justice Dingle

4-Star Recruits ESPN
ESPN didn’t start stars until 2010

2010 DT Denzel McCoy
2010 DB Ryan Ayers
2010 DT Shawn Green
2011 QB Vad Lee (ESPN Top 150 recruit)
2012 DL Francis Kallon
2012 QB Justin Thomas
2014 DB Step Durham
2014 RB CJ Leggett
2014 AB Myles Autry (ESPN Top 300 Recruit)
2014 LB Terrell Lewis
2015 QB Jaylend Ratliffe
2015 DE Anree Saint-Amour
2016 OL Parker Braun (ESPN Top 300 recruit)
2017 LB Bruce Jordan-Swilling (ESPN Top 300 recruit)
2017 DB Tre Swilling (ESPN Top 300 recruit)
2017 LB Jaquan Henderson
2017 DB Jaytlin Askew
2018 DT TK Chimedaz

ALL Time Two Star or less Recruits under Coach Paul Johnson

2-Star Recruits 247
2008 OL Phil Smith
2008 QB Tevin Washington
2008 WR Dan McKayhan
2008 WR Quentin Sims
2008 DE Antonio Wilson
2009 DB Carl Miles
2011 WR Corey Dennis
2011 LB Sean Tobin
2011 DE Kyle Travis
2011 DE Tyler Marcordes
2012 K Ryan Rodwell
2013 QB Ty Griffin
2013 LB Paul Davis
2013 DB Cory Griffin
2014 RB Clinton Lynch
2016 WR Jalen Camp
2016 OL Jahaziel Lee
2016 DB Ajani Kerr
2017 K Brenton king
2017 WR Adonicas Sanders
2018 RB C’Bo Flemister

2-Star Recruits or less yahoo Rivals
2008 WR Kamaron Riley
2008 DB Cooper Taylor
2008 DB Rahsaad reid
2008 OL Phil Smith
2008 QB Tevin Washington
2008 WR Dan McKayhan
2008 WR Quentin Sims
2008 DE Antonio Wilson
2009 LB Julian Burnett
2009 DB Lance Richardson
2009 DB Carl Miles
2010 K Justin Moore
2010 RB Tony Zenon
2011 RB Zach Laskey
2011 LB Sean Tobin
2011 DE Kyle Travis
2011 DE Jimmie Kitchen
2012 K Ryan Rodwell
2012 DT Adam Gotsis
2013 WR Antonio Messick
2013 QB Ty Griffin
2013 LB Paul Davis
2013 DB Cory Griffin
2014 OL Jake Whitley
2014 AB Clinton Lynch
2014 DB Shaun Kagawa
2016 LB Jake Brasher
2016 OL Kenny Cooper
2016 WR Jalen Camp
2016 DE Desmond Branch
2016 WR J. Hawkins-Anderson
2016 OL Jahaziel Lee
2016 DB Ajani Kerr
2017 K Brenton king
2017 DB Tariq Carpenter
2017 OL Boe Tufele
2017 WR Adonicas Sanders
2018 OL Harrison Jump
2018 RB C’Bo Flemister



2-Star Recruits ESPN
ESPN didn’t start stars until 2010

2010 RB Deon Hill
2010 RB Tony Zenon
2010 K Justin Moore
2010 QB Synjyn Days
2011 OL Shaq Mason
2011 DE Jimmie Kitchens
2011 WR Cory Dennis
2011 LB Sean Tobin
2011 DE Tyler Marcordes
2012 LB Beau Hankins
2012 DB Lynn Griffin
2012 OL Freddie Burden
2012 DL Adam Gostis
2012 DE Travin Henry
2013 QB Ty Griffin
2013 LB Paul Davis
2013 DB Cory Griffin
2014 RB Clinton Lynch
2014 DE Kenderius whitehead
2015 WR Brad Stewart
2016 QB Lucas Johnson
2016 DB Ajani Kerr
2017 QB Tobias Oliver
2017 WR Adonicas sanders
2018 RB C’Bo Flemister

Kinda insane how lopsided the 4 star recruits are on the defensive side versus offensive side since CPJ has been here. It kinda highlights what I've said in some threads:

1. Our defense should be much better during this time span. Most of our talented recruits we've signed have been on the defensive side of the ball.

2. Elite offensive recruits do not want to play in this offense. Not saying that it's an issue for our offense as our offense has always been the team's strength, but elite talent does make a big difference against the top of the conference opponents (see the scorefest vs Clemson both times we played them in 2009, FSU 2009, Deandre Smelter + JeT in 2014, etc.).
 

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Quit trying to put words in my mouth. You assertion was garbage based on facts. I'm not sure Tech has ever had a top 3 class in conference, so?

As to the classes of '16, '17 and how '18 is shaping up, yes I am happy. If you're not you're blind to the talent being brought in.

If we are bringing in good talent then why is it not translating to more wins on the field?

My argument here is we have not been getting it done in regards to recruiting and the lack of wins the past 3 years has shown us that.


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If we are bringing in good talent then why is it not translating to more wins on the field?

My argument here is we have not been getting it done in regards to recruiting and the lack of wins the past 3 years has shown us that.


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The recruiting has only really picked up the last 3 years. Those players are still young and next year the oldest will be juniors or RS sophomores. The talent is there, it's just young and for the most part inexperienced right now.
 

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If we are bringing in good talent then why is it not translating to more wins on the field?

My argument here is we have not been getting it done in regards to recruiting and the lack of wins the past 3 years has shown us that.


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Your argument was Tech is recruiting against Air Force and Wofford, don't walk it back now that you've been shown to be foolish.

'15 I'm not even going to address if you don't know what happened that season you don't follow Tech football, 9 wins in '16 and a mixed up '17 being a handful of plays away from 8-9 wins. Was '17 players? coaches? or both? It's already been shown the TALENT is there so I don't know what happened in '17 but I trust both the players and the coaches to see that '18 is not a repeat of '16.
 

UgagSucks

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Your argument was Tech is recruiting against Air Force and Wofford, don't walk it back now that you've been shown to be foolish.

'15 I'm not even going to address if you don't know what happened that season you don't follow Tech football, 9 wins in '16 and a mixed up '17 being a handful of plays away from 8-9 wins. Was '17 players? coaches? or both? It's already been shown the TALENT is there so I don't know what happened in '17 but I trust both the players and the coaches to see that '18 is not a repeat of '16.

Regarding Air Force/Wofford....did you see the offer list from out latest running back commit? Let me know what see there.

I truly hope the kids brought in the past few classes pan out for us. I love our school and want nothing more than for us to succeed. I just see history repeating itself lately.

Back to recruiting - for example, an "elite" QB is graduating from the ATL metro area this year. He is even considered a dual-threat QB and the kid is not even considering us due to the system we run. It's tough to win 9+ games a year if you can't recruit elite talent.


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UgagSucks

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The recruiting has only really picked up the last 3 years. Those players are still young and next year the oldest will be juniors or RS sophomores. The talent is there, it's just young and for the most part inexperienced right now.

I really hope they turn out to be major contributors for us!


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