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  1. MWBATL

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    And got sh*t upon by the liberal media and Progressives for doing so......and lost the House as a result. It showed everyone that "being Presidential" when you face a liberal propaganda machine is a bad idea these days. As I said before, these are no longer the days of Cronkite in the media, when restraint would be respected.
     
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    My points (which you continue to ignore and distort in true Progressive fashion) were that:
    1. CNN (and other media) use abusive language towards the President (not JUST CNN)...but even when it is not on CNN, they do NOT denounce such language or call it out
    2. The implication that Trump should apologize or change when no one else should remain purely partisan. I have NEVER said Trump isn't incendiary.

    As always, the left simply doesn't listen. You live in your own fantasy world. I'm done with this.
     
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  3. ilovetheoption

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    THAT'S the less you're drawing? jeeeeeeeez. I come back to this board for 2 seconds, and immediately am reminded why I left
     
  4. LibertyTurns

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    His tactics are being widely employed and they’re hugely effective. The man was brilliant. If you’re trying to understand the political landscape it’s important to understand what the strategy of both sides is and their respective ultimate endstates.

    If you’re into politics this is one of the best eras ever to be watching history play out outside of a world war. I’d prefer to avoid another world war because they’re terribly inconvenient.
     
  5. bwelbo

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    I think if I ran into A Love Supreme at a bar, I'd enjoy having beers with him and leave as friends. So how is our country the way we are seemingly at each others' throats? I think its 3 main things:

    1) Studies show that about half of Americans want guaranteed government jobs, guaranteed government healthcare, and guaranteed government income. That is the polar opposite of our founding principles, so we have probably 40% of the country way on one side and 40% of the country way on the other side.
    2) The Media foment anger and hysterics between these 2 sides.
    3) Politicians foment anger and hysterics between these 2 sides.

    So what you have is 2 large groups of people who think very differently, and then you have a crowd of people constantly saying provocative things about those differences in their face all day long (newspaper, social media, news).

    If I were having a beer with someone at a restaurant, or drove past a broken down car on the side of the road, or whatever - politics would probably never come up. But its constantly in our faces these days, stirring up trouble.
     
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  6. WreckinGT

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    Yes, because no Republicans ever damage property. Even with the lunacy of conservatives in the Donald Trump era, I still old out hope that there are some who are fiscally conservative yet not socially immoral will eventually take over the party and provide some real alternatives to Democrats. It may be a few years, but normalcy will eventually return and hatred will somewhat subside. So I certainly can't say that I will never vote for a Republican again. I have in the past and I probably will in the future at some point. I don't really see why I would close my mind off to ever doing so. Just my opinion.
     
  7. A Love Supreme

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    Well since you are done, I'll leave you with this. https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...says-he-wants-to-unite-the-country-eventually
    Your guy Trump even admits to perpetuating the divide. It goes to show what kind of man he is and you being allegiant to him shows what kind of person you are.
     
  8. bwelbo

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    That's Trump to a T. He's a living, breathing, (overeating), walking around Troll.

    And its all over the Media and both sides of Politics. Hillary said Democrats can be civil again if they take Congress back over. Pelosi just said you have to be ready to throw punches. All 3 of their goal (Media, Republicans, Democrats) is to make money through that clickbait behavior.
     
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  9. A Love Supreme

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    In my opinion the mainstream news media is mostly concerned about ratings and money, not so much informing the voters. Most politicians are all about power, money, and maintaining power. Being a moderate or being bipartisan is not sexy.
    By the way, if we met at a bar we probably would spend 2 minutes talking about politics and 2 hours talking GT football and how cool the new adidas uniforms look.
     
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    Yea, the opening 2 minutes would be “let’s not talk about politics”...”okay”...then “what are you drinking, I’ll buy the first round”...”how bout them Navy pants?” :D
     
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    LOL What?
     
  12. ilovetheoption

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    Perhaps I misread your post. I read it to mean "him acting with decorum and class is why he was an ineffective president". If I misread you, then I apologize.
     
  13. AE 87

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    I'm saying that it was a contributing factor. I'm not going to rehearse the history, but people don't support a leader who doesn't stand-up for himself. Unfortunately, you can't stand-up to bullies without them spinning it as acting un-presidential.

    I'm not going to rehearse the history, because I feel it is pointless when my somewhat mild observation evoked such an emotional response from you. You're clearly emotionally invested in a particular way of looking at the political situation, and that's fine. It just hinders thoughtful discussion.

    Fwiw, in the past, I've myself tried to break through with my own emotional rhetoric, but that hasn't worked either. I've decided not to continue that tactic.
     
  14. ilovetheoption

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    In other words as soon as Republicans do what you want them to you will THINK about voting for one. Glad we at least agree, I have no intention of ever voting for a democrat until one steps up and does the same thing, of course that, according to Hillary, wont happen until they win. But at least you think you are supporting morality, via your undying support for libs, guess thats a start for you, you know given that you are so open minded and all.

    Me never ever will I vote for a democart again. you know why ? b/c they aren't a party of democracy they are a socialist party and they should run under that banner
     
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    Democrats according to Republicans: Socialists
    Republicans according to Democrats: Fascists
     
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    Im not sure you know what real socialism is but if Fox News said the word and you thought it was a scary enough word to never vote for anyone outside of the Republican party again then more power to you and kudos to them. Also, if you think Republicans are the party of Democracy after watching their consistent gerrymandering and voter suppression efforts then you live in a strange world.
     
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    Please tell me this is fake news. First wedding cakes and now courts weighing in on whether a female spa worker HAS to wax a man’s balls???
     
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    That's sick as hell:vomit:
     
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