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apatriot1776 said:
They do play UMass before us which is as gimme as an FBS team gets. However it is a short week and they also have to play at minimum 5 playoff hopefuls in Alabama, Texas, Clemson, Ole Miss, and Tennessee. Our schedule may have more depth but their top end may be harder. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a 9-2 UGA going into this game.
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Then both teams will be 9 -3 & we can play Clemson in acc championship. East Texas qb verses Austin qb!
 
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Stewart Mandel picks us to go 7-5. He doesn’t think we’re a contender, but he thinks we’re “decent”.

For FSU, the question is “how good will DJ Uiagalelei be?”. He likes VT for double digit wins. Miami has rafts of talent and also lots of doubts. Clemson has holes on their roster. NCST has a shot at it, but they never seem to.

I’m not sure if this will be a gift link or a paywall link.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/56...orida-state-miami/?source=user_shared_article2024 ACC football predictions: How do Florida State, Miami and Clemson stack up?
 
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ESPN’s SP+ preseason predictive rankings by Bill Connelly (paywalled)
www.espn.com

Final preseason SP+ rankings for all 134 teams and poll takeaways

With under two weeks before the 2024 season begins, it's time to look at the updated SP+ rankings for all 134 teams.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

I don’t have more details, but with our schedule, this is a “not bowling” rating. The rating is “good offense, below average special teams, and terrible defense”. We’re hoping Santucci & co can do something in defense that’s not in the forecast here.

Here are some teams that we might play or have played recently, or of interest. Colorado in case someone asks how we’d be doing with Deion.




Rank and Team SP+ OFF DEF ST
1. Georgia34.246.2 (3)12.0 (5)0.7 (4)
8. Ole Miss24.742.9 (6)18.3 (16)0.5 (26)
9. Notre Dame23.439.0 (10)15.6 (9)0.2 (53)
12. Florida St.19.936.2 (21)16.2 (10)0.6 (8)
16. Clemson18.836.5 (19)17.7 (14)0.1 (66)
19. Miami15.537.3 (16)21.9 (34)0.7 (3)
27. SMU12.735.9 (22)23.3 (39)-0.4 (99)
29. NC St.12.130.5 (53)18.4 (18)0.6 (15)
31. Louisville11.330.7 (49)19.4 (27)0.1 (64)
36. Va. Tech9.431.3 (43)21.9 (35)0.6 (14)
40. N. Carolina7.934.1 (29)26.3 (55)0.3 (46)
45. UCF5.931.2 (44)25.4 (49)-0.6 (114)
51. Duke3.125.7 (74)22.7 (36)0.5 (18)
52. California2.833.0 (31)30.3 (82)-0.7 (129)
58. Ga. Tech0.633.0 (33)32.4 (94)0.1 (68)
60. Colorado0.333.0 (32)32.7 (100)0.0 (74)
66. Pittsburgh-0.823.6 (86)24.4 (43)-0.2 (88)
67. Syracuse-1.025.8 (73)26.7 (60)-0.2 (86)
73. Boston Coll.-2.426.0 (72)28.4 (69)-0.2 (84)
74. Wake Forest-2.623.9 (85)26.5 (59)-0.4 (103)
77. Stanford-3.527.1 (66)30.6 (84)0.4 (36)
78. Virginia-3.526.1 (71)29.7 (79)0.0 (71)
97. Ga. Southern-10.326.5 (69)36.8 (124)0.2 (55)
106. Georgia St.-11.322.8 (90)34.1 (109)-0.6 (117)
131. Kennesaw St.-20.913.1 (131)34.0 (106)0.0 (70)
132. Temple-21.917.8 (115)39.7 (131)-0.6 (123)
 

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I hope Haynes King does not lead the league in passing because we are just mashing people on the ground.
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SMU has a pretty easy schedule. QB may have opportunity to put up some big numbers. OTOH HK will face some very, very good defenses but we do have a very good OC.
 

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g0lftime said:
SMU has a pretty easy schedule. QB may have opportunity to put up some big numbers. OTOH HK will face some very, very good defenses but we do have a very good OC.
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Sometimes that can counter your stats. lets say their QB is putting 200+ YDs at 4 tds by half. its likely he comes out of the game if they have comfortable leads.

QBS tend to throw for massive stats when they are in fights.
 
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slugboy said:
ESPN’s SP+ preseason predictive rankings by Bill Connelly (paywalled)
www.espn.com

Final preseason SP+ rankings for all 134 teams and poll takeaways

With under two weeks before the 2024 season begins, it's time to look at the updated SP+ rankings for all 134 teams.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

I don’t have more details, but with our schedule, this is a “not bowling” rating. The rating is “good offense, below average special teams, and terrible defense”. We’re hoping Santucci & co can do something in defense that’s not in the forecast here.

Here are some teams that we might play or have played recently, or of interest. Colorado in case someone asks how we’d be doing with Deion.




Rank and Team SP+ OFF DEF ST
1. Georgia34.246.2 (3)12.0 (5)0.7 (4)
8. Ole Miss24.742.9 (6)18.3 (16)0.5 (26)
9. Notre Dame23.439.0 (10)15.6 (9)0.2 (53)
12. Florida St.19.936.2 (21)16.2 (10)0.6 (8)
16. Clemson18.836.5 (19)17.7 (14)0.1 (66)
19. Miami15.537.3 (16)21.9 (34)0.7 (3)
27. SMU12.735.9 (22)23.3 (39)-0.4 (99)
29. NC St.12.130.5 (53)18.4 (18)0.6 (15)
31. Louisville11.330.7 (49)19.4 (27)0.1 (64)
36. Va. Tech9.431.3 (43)21.9 (35)0.6 (14)
40. N. Carolina7.934.1 (29)26.3 (55)0.3 (46)
45. UCF5.931.2 (44)25.4 (49)-0.6 (114)
51. Duke3.125.7 (74)22.7 (36)0.5 (18)
52. California2.833.0 (31)30.3 (82)-0.7 (129)
58. Ga. Tech0.633.0 (33)32.4 (94)0.1 (68)
60. Colorado0.333.0 (32)32.7 (100)0.0 (74)
66. Pittsburgh-0.823.6 (86)24.4 (43)-0.2 (88)
67. Syracuse-1.025.8 (73)26.7 (60)-0.2 (86)
73. Boston Coll.-2.426.0 (72)28.4 (69)-0.2 (84)
74. Wake Forest-2.623.9 (85)26.5 (59)-0.4 (103)
77. Stanford-3.527.1 (66)30.6 (84)0.4 (36)
78. Virginia-3.526.1 (71)29.7 (79)0.0 (71)
97. Ga. Southern-10.326.5 (69)36.8 (124)0.2 (55)
106. Georgia St.-11.322.8 (90)34.1 (109)-0.6 (117)
131. Kennesaw St.-20.913.1 (131)34.0 (106)0.0 (70)
132. Temple-21.917.8 (115)39.7 (131)-0.6 (123)
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Thanks for sharing this.
Some of this appears to be a lazy take by ESPN. They claim to factor in returning production, transfers, and new recruits to go along with recent stats. I’m not convinced their rankings reflect this accurately.

I don’t have access to last year’s SP+ rankings, but we were 31st, 77th, and 64th in OFEI, DFEI, and STFEI respectively, good for 50th overall. This more or less aligns with where ESPN is placing us in their 2024 SP+ rankings although they rank us significantly lower on defense*.

Notably, ranking our special teams below average may be failing to take into account that we now have an exceptionally reliable field goal kicker in Birr, who replaced Stewart after his 2 misses. Birr ranked 10th in field goal percentage last year across all of FBS. Stewart also had some struggles with kickoffs which weighed down last year’s ranking. I expect us to have a net improvement (from dead average overall) this year with Birr, Shanahan, and Leary returning.

*ESPN does state that they factor in not just last year but the last four years. That alone would tend to weigh down our 2024 rating and rankings significantly. However, that method is at risk of failure when a program completely overhauls its coaching staff and team mindset.
 
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Bottom line is, we’re not a darling people care about. Some people genuinely think we still run the 3O. I say all that to say, most folks will assume our defense is trash until it’s not. I think we have the pieces to be considerably better. Nobody knows that except the folks on here who follow closely. I’m hoping our debut with FSU resembles Duke/Clem from a year ago. It could.
 

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MonroeJacket said:
Bottom line is, we’re not a darling people care about. Some people genuinely think we still run the 3O. I say all that to say, most folks will assume our defense is trash until it’s not. I think we have the pieces to be considerably better. Nobody knows that except the folks on here who follow closely. I’m hoping our debut with FSU resembles Duke/Clem from a year ago. It could.
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Well leading the acc in rushing. Our QB having 700 yards and having a thousand yard rusher and a 500 plus yard one.... Statistically we looked like a Johnson team until you look at Kings passing stats.
 
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Fatmike91 said:
What are they going to say when we open the season at 6-1?

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That our schedule is backloaded ;)

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CuseJacket said:


I hope Haynes King does not lead the league in passing because we are just mashing people on the ground.
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Our offense sputtered a lot last season. A strong and consistent passing attack with some solid possession receivers could have really helped. If we lead the league in passing, it could be just from not sputtering like last season.

It usually takes us some time to figure out the offense. Hopefully, we’re faster students this season.

On another tangent, Phil Steele says we have the 4th (I think that’s right) hardest schedule in the nation.
 
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