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Now wouldn't this be interesting (NFL mock draft)

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  1. turfjacket

    turfjacket Ramblin' Wreck

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  2. ATL1

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    I don't won't us to trade up for Clowney, if anything we need to trade down and get more picks.
     
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    Would love Clowney but don't want to trade next years 1st rounder
     
  4. Josh Joseph

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    I agree. I'd rather more picks. And I need the OL to be addressed. I'd love to have both of these guys in falcons jerseys but not if Lamar Holmes is going to be starting at RT.
     
  5. CobbTech

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    Mike Johnson was the projected starter at RT last season and he got hurt before he played a snap. I can't imagine Holmes beating Johnson out.
     
  6. Josh Joseph

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    I'm optimistic Johnson will be back and return to form but I'm not counting on it. Correct me if I am wrong but I thought he had some injury issues at Bama too...
     
  7. jeffgt14

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    That list is terrible. Fisher taking a skill player in the 1st round? Derek Carr #4 overall?
     
  8. mmbt0ne

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    FWIW, if we were able to turn a #6, a #25(ish) and a #100 pick into Clowney that would be pretty alright with me. That is not a king's ransom by any means.

    I'm not a big fan of trading up, it's not impossible to create a trade where the team moving up wins.
     
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    From what I understand, that 100th pick won't do it. It would take a 2nd round pick. I don't think I'm willing to give up, potentially, three impact players for one. The Falcons aren't one guy away from a Super Bowl. They've got holes/question marks. OL, pass rush, safety, LB.
     
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    Yeah, I'm going solely by that page which said the Falcons would trade the #6, next years first, and this years fourth to get the #1 pick. If that's the deal it's a yes, in my opinion.

    I think the Falcon's bet on the OL is that Mike Tice will make a bigger difference than a first round pick, so I doubt they take an OL first unless they have to (Clowney and Mack gone and no one trying to trade). Whether or not that plays out, we'll have to wait and see.
     
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    Yeah, the problem is when the guy fills out his draft, instead of the 1st, this year's 4th and next year's 1st that he says, he actually does the swap in the 1st and 3rd rounds.
     
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    Interesting contradiction to this way of thinking in Bill Polian's blog article about the Falcons yeserday:
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    The Patriots are notorious for trading high picks for multiple picks later in the draft and even in future drafts. Teams who believe in their system and have good scouts can afford to do that as they get better value out of lower picks. Some teams who have no clue what they're doing are screwed either way.

    Just depends on the team.
     
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    That list is garbage. Whoever made that mock draft is a complete moron
     
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    The falcons need to just find a player - un drafted player like Byron bell who the panthers just signed to 5 year deal.
    after being forced into playing midway in the season before last as a rookie he has started every game at right tackle. Most runs are left side as bell is so big GE does not run block well. He does get help on fast defense ends. No inside rush direct to cams face gets by bell - he is strong and holds well. He is working on speed and agility and should be dominant.
    With loss of left tackle to retirement he better be ready because help will need to be spread around.
     
  17. jeffgt14

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    He was terrible though...
     
  18. mmbt0ne

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    To me, the argument for gaining more picks should be "everything's a crapshoot the later you get in the draft, so the more bullets you have the better"

    That strategy plays a lot better when your highest pick is 28+ (Patriots) versus when your pick is #6. Even if you look at running back, one of the positions people are most vocal about not drafting high, you see a clear hit percentage and star percentage correlation with players picked high in the draft. Yes, you can get an Alfred Morris in the 6th round, but you're much more likely to get an Allen Bradford, a Jordan Todman, a Kenjon Barner, or a Deji Karim.

    Since 2010 here are the drafted RBs and there spot in the draft, and I've starred the guys I consider to be really good players.

    First Round RBs
    CJ Spiller (*)
    Ryan Mathews (*)
    Jahvid Best
    Mark Ingram
    Trent Richardson
    Doug Martin (*)
    David Wilson

    Second Round RBs
    Dexter McCluster
    Toby Gerhart
    Ben Tate
    Montario Hardesty
    Ryan Williams
    Shane Vereen
    Mikel Leshoure
    Daniel Thomas
    Isaiah Pead
    LaMichael James
    Giovani Bernard (*)
    Le'Veon Bell
    Montee Ball
    Eddie Lacy (*)
    Christine Michael

    Third and Fourth Round RBs
    DeMarco Murray (*)
    Stevan Ridley
    Alex Green
    Ronnie Hillman
    Bernard Pierce
    Knile Davis
    Joe McKnight
    Roy Helu
    Kendall Hunter
    Delone Carter
    Taiwan Jones
    Bilal Powell
    Jamie Harper
    Lamar Miller
    Robert Turbin
    Johnathan Franklin
    Marcus Lattimore

    Fifth through Seventh Round RBs
    Johnny White
    Jacquizz Rodgers
    Dio Lewis
    Chris Rainey
    Vick Ballard
    Denard Robinson
    Stepfan Taylor
    Joseph Randle
    Chris Thompson
    Zac Stacy (*)
    Mike Gillislee
    Anthony Dixon
    Deji Karim
    Jonathan Dwyer
    James Starks
    Charles Scott
    Evan Royster
    Jordan Todman
    Allen Bradford
    Alfred Morris (*)
    Cyrus Grey
    Dan Herron
    Terrance Ganaway
    Latavius Murray
    Kenjon Barner
    Andre Ellington (*)
    Mike James
    Rex Burkhead
    Spencer Ware
    Theo Riddick
    Da'Rel Scott
    Anthony Allen
    Baron Batch
    Jay Finley
    Michael Smith
    Bryce Brown
    Edwin Baker
    Daryl Richardson
    Jawan Jamison
    Kerwynn Williams
    Michael Cox
     

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