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<blockquote data-quote="daBuzz" data-source="post: 60334" data-attributes="member: 56"><p>Where did I say that was a sign of success? I think that anything outside the top 25 is very average. HOWEVER, looking at the numbers, that "very average" ranking is something that has eluded us for 4 consecutive years and we would have to exceed the preseason rankings by 15 places just to get into the "very average" top 40.</p><p></p><p>Also, I very clearly stated that I didn't consider Gailey to be the pinnacle of college coaching. FWIW, I think he was actually a bad college coach; he played the game much too conservatively because of his NFL background, IMO.</p><p>But the #'s don't lie. He had 3 years in the top 40 and I didn't even bother to point out the obvious....he left the cupboard stocked with some pretty decent players that Coach Johnson was able to take advantage of in garnering his only 2 top 40 finishes.</p><p></p><p>You mentioned JfN, JD and DT...all of those guys, along with Michael Johnson, Derrick Morgan, Vance Walker, Daryl Richards, Andrew Gardner, Kevin Cone, Morgan Burnett, Mario Butler, and Cord Howard were guys who eventually made it to the NFL and were recruited and brought to GT that Johnson was able to use in either or both of the 2008 and 2009 years. That's 12 future NFL players that Coach Johnson had gift-wrapped to him when he came to GT.</p><p></p><p>Did Johnson do more with those guys than Gailey could have? IMO, he absolutely did and he deserves credit for that. However, Johnson is the head coach of GT football. He's responsible for offense, defense, special teams, academic eligibility, and recruiting. You cannot just point at his offense and say "our offense has outperformed expectations" and highlight that as a team success. He has hired 3 and fired 2 defensive coordinators in his tenure at GT. Many on these very message boards point out that this means CPJ is willing to make change. I take the contrarian approach and point out that this means the man is apparently pretty bad at selecting defensive coordinators.</p><p></p><p>Look at our roster now. I love all of these players because they're student athletes who chose to come play for an academic institution that is a b***h in the classroom and one in which I hold very dear to my heart and my wallet. Yet, I cannot honestly look at our offensive & defensive players and find more than potentially 3 or 4 future NFL players. So the talent cupboard is apparently much more bare than it was when he arrived. Yes, he has taken steps to address the recruiting and improve and that gives me hope (something that I think is necessary for anyone who wants to be a college football fan and certainly one at a touch academic school like GT).</p><p></p><p>However, let's be completely honest & candid about that as well. Despite the fact that we have improved recruiting, we are still struggling to recruit the elite players. And yes, yes, I know...we're GT, we're NEVER going to get a lot of those types of players. Well I contend that it isn't unheard of for us to expect to land a few of the Calvin Johnsons, Derrick Morgans, Morgan Burnetts or Daryl Richards. Heck, all it takes is say one or two of those guys per year to make it such that you have 8 or 10 of them available on the team.</p><p></p><p>And finally, academic eligibility. Gailey was HORRID at this because he treated the players like grown men...as he was accustomed to doing in the NFL. He had the expectation that these young men would get up & go to class, do homework, and study like they were preparing for their NFL future. He was also naive enough to trust the academic advisors and administrators appointed to the GTAA by the Hill and that eventually cost him greatly with Flunkgate. Johnson has been much better about this...to a degree. Whereas, our graduation rates have improved and that has gained CPJ a measure of limited leeway with the academic side of the house, he still uses more of a trusting approach than the coach who I think had the right approach for GT academics...O'Leary.</p><p></p><p>O'Leary had graduate assistants who followed players to class, received attendance reports from professors and reported those back to O'Leary every single day...and the players knew it. A player who missed an 8 am class could count on 5 am morning punishment runs the following day...and then being escorted by a GA to his 8 am class. While I heard many student athletes grumbling towards the end of O'Leary's tenure that "this s**t is growing old" (talking about his micro-management), the truth is that he didn't leave things like going to class or study hall to chance. It was a required team activity and you did it...or you suffered. It is true that the APR requirements had not been implemented and there were potentially a few players who didn't work the same workload that a student athlete would have to do today at GT. But I can also tell you that those players were the exception and not the rule. I can also tell you that had O'Leary's approach still been in place that Jabari Hunt-Days would very likely still be eligible for this upcoming season.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="daBuzz, post: 60334, member: 56"] Where did I say that was a sign of success? I think that anything outside the top 25 is very average. HOWEVER, looking at the numbers, that "very average" ranking is something that has eluded us for 4 consecutive years and we would have to exceed the preseason rankings by 15 places just to get into the "very average" top 40. Also, I very clearly stated that I didn't consider Gailey to be the pinnacle of college coaching. FWIW, I think he was actually a bad college coach; he played the game much too conservatively because of his NFL background, IMO. But the #'s don't lie. He had 3 years in the top 40 and I didn't even bother to point out the obvious....he left the cupboard stocked with some pretty decent players that Coach Johnson was able to take advantage of in garnering his only 2 top 40 finishes. You mentioned JfN, JD and DT...all of those guys, along with Michael Johnson, Derrick Morgan, Vance Walker, Daryl Richards, Andrew Gardner, Kevin Cone, Morgan Burnett, Mario Butler, and Cord Howard were guys who eventually made it to the NFL and were recruited and brought to GT that Johnson was able to use in either or both of the 2008 and 2009 years. That's 12 future NFL players that Coach Johnson had gift-wrapped to him when he came to GT. Did Johnson do more with those guys than Gailey could have? IMO, he absolutely did and he deserves credit for that. However, Johnson is the head coach of GT football. He's responsible for offense, defense, special teams, academic eligibility, and recruiting. You cannot just point at his offense and say "our offense has outperformed expectations" and highlight that as a team success. He has hired 3 and fired 2 defensive coordinators in his tenure at GT. Many on these very message boards point out that this means CPJ is willing to make change. I take the contrarian approach and point out that this means the man is apparently pretty bad at selecting defensive coordinators. Look at our roster now. I love all of these players because they're student athletes who chose to come play for an academic institution that is a b***h in the classroom and one in which I hold very dear to my heart and my wallet. Yet, I cannot honestly look at our offensive & defensive players and find more than potentially 3 or 4 future NFL players. So the talent cupboard is apparently much more bare than it was when he arrived. Yes, he has taken steps to address the recruiting and improve and that gives me hope (something that I think is necessary for anyone who wants to be a college football fan and certainly one at a touch academic school like GT). However, let's be completely honest & candid about that as well. Despite the fact that we have improved recruiting, we are still struggling to recruit the elite players. And yes, yes, I know...we're GT, we're NEVER going to get a lot of those types of players. Well I contend that it isn't unheard of for us to expect to land a few of the Calvin Johnsons, Derrick Morgans, Morgan Burnetts or Daryl Richards. Heck, all it takes is say one or two of those guys per year to make it such that you have 8 or 10 of them available on the team. And finally, academic eligibility. Gailey was HORRID at this because he treated the players like grown men...as he was accustomed to doing in the NFL. He had the expectation that these young men would get up & go to class, do homework, and study like they were preparing for their NFL future. He was also naive enough to trust the academic advisors and administrators appointed to the GTAA by the Hill and that eventually cost him greatly with Flunkgate. Johnson has been much better about this...to a degree. Whereas, our graduation rates have improved and that has gained CPJ a measure of limited leeway with the academic side of the house, he still uses more of a trusting approach than the coach who I think had the right approach for GT academics...O'Leary. O'Leary had graduate assistants who followed players to class, received attendance reports from professors and reported those back to O'Leary every single day...and the players knew it. A player who missed an 8 am class could count on 5 am morning punishment runs the following day...and then being escorted by a GA to his 8 am class. While I heard many student athletes grumbling towards the end of O'Leary's tenure that "this s**t is growing old" (talking about his micro-management), the truth is that he didn't leave things like going to class or study hall to chance. It was a required team activity and you did it...or you suffered. It is true that the APR requirements had not been implemented and there were potentially a few players who didn't work the same workload that a student athlete would have to do today at GT. But I can also tell you that those players were the exception and not the rule. I can also tell you that had O'Leary's approach still been in place that Jabari Hunt-Days would very likely still be eligible for this upcoming season. [/QUOTE]
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