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<blockquote data-quote="AlabamaBuzz" data-source="post: 27668" data-attributes="member: 906"><p>I am stealing this from another site, but I don't believe the poster would mind....it is just an eye-opener for some of those that may not understand GT and the academic differences.....</p><p> </p><p>EDIT: OP said that copying and pasting was OK with him...</p><p> </p><p>If this is something that is not allowed, moderators, I apologize, and you can remove the thread.....</p><p> </p><p>Credit to ConyersJacket:</p><p> </p><p><strong>It's been a good while since I got out of GT so last month I did some actual digging around GT's website to see what the athletes have to take these days. For the sake of argument let's assume they're all management majors trying to take the easiest road possible. What's GT's "best case" scenario for borderline admissions?</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>- They have to take Survey of Calculus</strong><a href="http://www.math.gatech.edu/course/math/1712" target="_blank"><strong>http://www.math.gatech.edu/course/math/1712</strong></a></p><p> </p><p><strong>I assume this is something a bit easier than regular old calculus. But when you're talking about they players accepted onto SEC defenses, it doesn't matter one öööö bit if it's "easy calculus" or "hard calculus". Some of those guys are almost illiterate. They can't pass it. They probably can't handle algebra. </strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>They also have to take a 2 semesters of lab science. Pick from Biology, Chemistry, Physics and EAS.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>But here's what surprised me and something that's changed since my day. They have to take a programming course. CS1301 or CS1315. At a glance it looks like CS1315 is the way to go, but even that class still requires actual programming. </strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>those were just 3 of the hilights. Here's everything they have to take:</strong><a href="http://scheller.gatech.edu/programs/under/files/bsm_credit_sheet.pdf" target="_blank"><strong>http://scheller.gatech.edu/programs/...edit_sheet.pdf</strong></a></p><p> </p><p><strong>At a glance there is: </strong></p><p><strong>MATH 1711 Finite Mathmatics</strong></p><p><strong>MGT 2250 Mgt Statistics</strong></p><p><strong>MGT 2251 as a followup.</strong></p><p><strong>And 4 courses in accounting/economics. Micro-econ will have some math. I never took an accounting course so I don't know how hard that can be.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>Anyway I just wanted to put some facts out there to demonstrate that there's a lot more going on than just "easy calculus that they maybe took at Perimeter college".</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>Compared to top liberal arts schools this is hard as öööö for a lot of football players. Add on top of that GT's lack of grade inflation (they still do that right?), and football player's very limited time to get stuff done... The UVAs, UNCs, Stanfords of the world can't compare to GT. Duke slams all it's basketball players through a 3 year sociology degree for öööö's sake. </strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>Checkout Julius Pepper's (UNC player for those who forgot/never knew) transcript. Ignore the grades at first, just look at the classes.</strong><a href="http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/11/2012/08/peppers_trans_1.png" target="_blank"><strong>http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/11/...rs_trans_1.png</strong></a></p><p> </p><p><strong>Now compare that with arguably the easiest path through GT. It isn't even remotely comparable. Other highly ranked schools with liberal arts majors are doing the same thing. These schools have no excuse for losing. They are not handicapped whatsoever. Their biggest handicap is they aren't in the "black belt" and don't have the recruiting grounds the SEC does. </strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>The only schools out there as tough (and honestly, I feel are much tougher) are Army, Navy and Air Force. It is god damned amazing GT has made it to 17 straight bowl games. But it is not a level playing field, these academic requirements lead to admission standards which lead to us not getting 4 and 5 star players in our own backyard, many of whom would surely attend GT if given the chance to stay close to home. GT could be a powerhouse.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>But that's neither here nor there, my real point here is to just introduce some hard data, some facts into this never ending conversation that repeats itself over and over but is greatly simplified from the truth because we just make it all about 1 calculus class. </strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AlabamaBuzz, post: 27668, member: 906"] I am stealing this from another site, but I don't believe the poster would mind....it is just an eye-opener for some of those that may not understand GT and the academic differences..... EDIT: OP said that copying and pasting was OK with him... If this is something that is not allowed, moderators, I apologize, and you can remove the thread..... Credit to ConyersJacket: [B]It's been a good while since I got out of GT so last month I did some actual digging around GT's website to see what the athletes have to take these days. For the sake of argument let's assume they're all management majors trying to take the easiest road possible. What's GT's "best case" scenario for borderline admissions? - They have to take Survey of Calculus[/B][URL='http://www.math.gatech.edu/course/math/1712'][B]http://www.math.gatech.edu/course/math/1712[/B][/URL] [B]I assume this is something a bit easier than regular old calculus. But when you're talking about they players accepted onto SEC defenses, it doesn't matter one öööö bit if it's "easy calculus" or "hard calculus". Some of those guys are almost illiterate. They can't pass it. They probably can't handle algebra. They also have to take a 2 semesters of lab science. Pick from Biology, Chemistry, Physics and EAS. But here's what surprised me and something that's changed since my day. They have to take a programming course. CS1301 or CS1315. At a glance it looks like CS1315 is the way to go, but even that class still requires actual programming. those were just 3 of the hilights. Here's everything they have to take:[/B][URL='http://scheller.gatech.edu/programs/under/files/bsm_credit_sheet.pdf'][B]http://scheller.gatech.edu/programs/...edit_sheet.pdf[/B][/URL] [B]At a glance there is: MATH 1711 Finite Mathmatics MGT 2250 Mgt Statistics MGT 2251 as a followup. And 4 courses in accounting/economics. Micro-econ will have some math. I never took an accounting course so I don't know how hard that can be. Anyway I just wanted to put some facts out there to demonstrate that there's a lot more going on than just "easy calculus that they maybe took at Perimeter college". Compared to top liberal arts schools this is hard as öööö for a lot of football players. Add on top of that GT's lack of grade inflation (they still do that right?), and football player's very limited time to get stuff done... The UVAs, UNCs, Stanfords of the world can't compare to GT. Duke slams all it's basketball players through a 3 year sociology degree for öööö's sake. Checkout Julius Pepper's (UNC player for those who forgot/never knew) transcript. Ignore the grades at first, just look at the classes.[/B][URL='http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/11/2012/08/peppers_trans_1.png'][B]http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/11/...rs_trans_1.png[/B][/URL] [B]Now compare that with arguably the easiest path through GT. It isn't even remotely comparable. Other highly ranked schools with liberal arts majors are doing the same thing. These schools have no excuse for losing. They are not handicapped whatsoever. Their biggest handicap is they aren't in the "black belt" and don't have the recruiting grounds the SEC does. The only schools out there as tough (and honestly, I feel are much tougher) are Army, Navy and Air Force. It is god damned amazing GT has made it to 17 straight bowl games. But it is not a level playing field, these academic requirements lead to admission standards which lead to us not getting 4 and 5 star players in our own backyard, many of whom would surely attend GT if given the chance to stay close to home. GT could be a powerhouse. But that's neither here nor there, my real point here is to just introduce some hard data, some facts into this never ending conversation that repeats itself over and over but is greatly simplified from the truth because we just make it all about 1 calculus class. [/B] [/QUOTE]
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