Is the Greatest Generation the greatest?

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I mean all personal accounts of CPJ on recruiting or non-locker room/field interactions have been nothing but positive.

So yea I think that's a legit possibility.
The Godfather got it right: how did we ever come to this? When did so many of us begin to believe that today's recruits, mostly 18, are so soft and frilly, Pillsbury Doughboys who seek, who demand, kid gloves and that loving feeling when asked to play a sport that hits people in the mouth? Repeatedly? How is it we believe we are producing a generation of whiners, wimps, wusses and wannabees who expect to be escorted, gently please, to the playing field, game to be called if muddy or it snows, and parasols issued if it rains? Who expect to be told how great thou art by the head ball coach himself, no second line position coaches or coordinators, please, the head man only, preferably, white gloves, bowler and dinner jacket?\ Who have never heard a curse word and will faint dead away at the dreaded F bomb, words their parents never, ever, used and no coach or teammate ever uttered? Who will recoil in abject terror from a coach -- any coach from anywhere -- who is direct, straightforward, unapologetic, hard edged if you will? How did we get from the Greatest Generation to ... this? Well, of course we didn't. Some segments of the board need to grow up and accept that today's teenager is as tough as yesterday's -- omigod, even us, unthinkable -- and can deal with adult coaches who don't pull punches: they get room, board and tuition and nothing else that is not earned on the practice field. And should it come time to transfer to play, then god bless you and good luck. Good grief. You'd think Johnson comes with fangs and a coffin to sleep in. Wonder how he coaches during daylight.
 

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Hard to attack a coaches intentions/character/ or word when he honors a scholarship to a QB who is horrifically injured in a accident and will never play a snap for GT. Not to mention his ability to ensure these athletes a means (with HIGH % of success) to receive a diploma from an excellent Institution
The Godfather got it right: how did we ever come to this? When did so many of us begin to believe that today's recruits, mostly 18, are so soft and frilly, Pillsbury Doughboys who seek, who demand, kid gloves and that loving feeling when asked to play a sport that hits people in the mouth? Repeatedly? How is it we believe we are producing a generation of whiners, wimps, wusses and wannabees who expect to be escorted, gently please, to the playing field, game to be called if muddy or it snows, and parasols issued if it rains? Who expect to be told how great thou art by the head ball coach himself, no second line position coaches or coordinators, please, the head man only, preferably, white gloves, bowler and dinner jacket?\ Who have never heard a curse word and will faint dead away at the dreaded F bomb, words their parents never, ever, used and no coach or teammate ever uttered? Who will recoil in abject terror from a coach -- any coach from anywhere -- who is direct, straightforward, unapologetic, hard edged if you will? How did we get from the Greatest Generation to ... this? Well, of course we didn't. Some segments of the board need to grow up and accept that today's teenager is as tough as yesterday's -- omigod, even us, unthinkable -- and can deal with adult coaches who don't pull punches: they get room, board and tuition and nothing else that is not earned on the practice field. And should it come time to transfer to play, then god bless you and good luck. Good grief. You'd think Johnson comes with fangs and a coffin to sleep in. Wonder how he coaches during daylight.
Let me guess, you're a "Greatest Generationer"?
 

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Let me guess, you're a "Greatest Generationer"?
No, later. In fact I object to the term though it was a great marketing device. But you know, the guys in the American Revolution were pretty good, as well as those at Gettysburg, and France in WWI, and Korea and Vietnam did their duty. I sure wouldn't pick one as the greatest. I just don't get why some folks think today's teenager is too soft to deal with a tough football coach, while we, of course, were much, much tougher. Sure we were. (Tough in fairness my first coach's first name was Marvin. How tough do you think he had to be?)
 

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No, later. In fact I object to the term though it was a great marketing device. But you know, the guys in the American Revolution were pretty good, as well as those at Gettysburg, and France in WWI, and Korea and Vietnam did their duty. I sure wouldn't pick one as the greatest. I just don't get why some folks think today's teenager is too soft to deal with a tough football coach, while we, of course, were much, much tougher. Sure we were. (Tough in fairness my first coach's first name was Marvin. How tough do you think he had to be?)

Not as tough as a boy name Sue!!! :cool::cool::cool:
 

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The Godfather got it right: how did we ever come to this? When did so many of us begin to believe that today's recruits, mostly 18, are so soft and frilly, Pillsbury Doughboys who seek, who demand, kid gloves and that loving feeling when asked to play a sport that hits people in the mouth? Repeatedly? How is it we believe we are producing a generation of whiners, wimps, wusses and wannabees who expect to be escorted, gently please, to the playing field, game to be called if muddy or it snows, and parasols issued if it rains? Who expect to be told how great thou art by the head ball coach himself, no second line position coaches or coordinators, please, the head man only, preferably, white gloves, bowler and dinner jacket?\ Who have never heard a curse word and will faint dead away at the dreaded F bomb, words their parents never, ever, used and no coach or teammate ever uttered? Who will recoil in abject terror from a coach -- any coach from anywhere -- who is direct, straightforward, unapologetic, hard edged if you will? How did we get from the Greatest Generation to ... this? Well, of course we didn't. Some segments of the board need to grow up and accept that today's teenager is as tough as yesterday's -- omigod, even us, unthinkable -- and can deal with adult coaches who don't pull punches: they get room, board and tuition and nothing else that is not earned on the practice field. And should it come time to transfer to play, then god bless you and good luck. Good grief. You'd think Johnson comes with fangs and a coffin to sleep in. Wonder how he coaches during daylight.

Gotta disagree about our softness as a society in general. As a whole each generation has gotten softer than the great generation. That doesn’t mean each generation doesn’t put out tough as nails badasses (just look in our special forces, they are present). And it doesn’t mean the greatest generation didn’t have some pansies too. But all in all we are trending down.
 

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If they are not all dead already, they are in their mid 90's I would believe. You can see what is happening to this country now that they are all gone. Hell in a handbag. :)
Before I moved I had lunch about once a month with a WWII B17 pilot, then 90, actually completed 25 missions over Germany, had a couple of planes shot to pieces but never lost a crewman, and viewed it like this: "Anybody who flew through that and came back was just lucky. All you could do was keep that thing straight and hope to come out the other side with 10 live bodies. All you needed to come home was to do it 25 times." He objected to being "the Greatest Generation" and was convinced his grandsons were just as worthy as both his and his kids' generation. Just didn't take that seriously. But when I had occasion to introduce him to a friend it was always as an American hero.
 

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Gotta disagree about our softness as a society in general. As a whole each generation has gotten softer than the great generation. That doesn’t mean each generation doesn’t put out tough as nails badasses (just look in our special forces, they are present). And it doesn’t mean the greatest generation didn’t have some pansies too. But all in all we are trending down.
I think that in another time you could have a keen debate on that, but it is harder when today only 1% of the American population will ever serve in the military -- but I don't want to get started on the volunteer army -- and there is so few public service avenues that hardly any of us have anything actually invested in the country, from the White House down. Not to mention the military is a great leveling institution. But I am still convinced we'll stand up when needed.
 

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I think that in another time you could have a keen debate on that, but it is harder when today only 1% of the American population will ever serve in the military -- but I don't want to get started on the volunteer army -- and there is so few public service avenues that hardly any of us have anything actually invested in the country, from the White House down. Not to mention the military is a great leveling institution. But I am still convinced we'll stand up when needed.
If war starts with Iran,North Korea and maybe even Russia there will probably have to be a draft because the 1% wont be enough.
 

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If war starts with Iran,North Korea and maybe even Russia there will probably have to be a draft because the 1% wont be enough.
And that, my friend, is why we should worry about whose finger is on the nuclear trigger. MAD only works when sanity reigns on all sides. But now, well.
 

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If war starts with Iran,North Korea and maybe even Russia there will probably have to be a draft because the 1% wont be enough.
If we have a real war with Russia, we won't need even the 1%. Both countries will be oblterated within a matter of a couple of hours.

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If they are not all dead already, they are in their mid 90's I would believe. You can see what is happening to this country now that they are all gone. Hell in a handbag. :)
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The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

-Socrates (469–399 B.C.)

Every previous generation likes to look down on the next one it's been going on for thousands of years. I think a lot of it is because parents want to make sure that their kids have a better quality of life then they every had.
 

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If they are not all dead already, they are in their mid 90's I would believe. You can see what is happening to this country now that they are all gone. Hell in a handbag. :)

Just got back from the funeral of my grandfather a few days ago. A WWII veteran with a Purple Heart (minor gunshot injury). He was 93 and still in great health.
 

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Just got back from the funeral of my grandfather a few days ago. A WWII veteran with a Purple Heart (minor gunshot injury). He was 93 and still in great health.
My head always spins when I read or hear about someone who "won the Purple Heart ..." Those whom I know, probably much like your grandfather, never considered getting shot "winning". (Which is part of the present disengagement of civilian and military: a lot of folks don't even know what a Purple Heart represents.
 

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Before I moved I had lunch about once a month with a WWII B17 pilot, then 90, actually completed 25 missions over Germany, had a couple of planes shot to pieces but never lost a crewman, and viewed it like this: "Anybody who flew through that and came back was just lucky. All you could do was keep that thing straight and hope to come out the other side with 10 live bodies. All you needed to come home was to do it 25 times." He objected to being "the Greatest Generation" and was convinced his grandsons were just as worthy as both his and his kids' generation. Just didn't take that seriously. But when I had occasion to introduce him to a friend it was always as an American hero.
Great story. Kinda puts things into perspective, doesn't it?
 
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