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<blockquote data-quote="stylee" data-source="post: 74591" data-attributes="member: 882"><p>I don't think we ever run a true outside veer. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've never seen it. Running a true outside veer generally requires the QB to take a step or two laterally down the line, and usually our QBs are making their reads from their spot right behind the center (though they obviously open up in different ways depending on if it's midline or triple/inside veer). </p><p></p><p>In an outside veer, the dive goes to the OUTSIDE of the offensive tackle, so against most defenses you're reading the outside linebacker on the dive. zhavenor is right on this point. However, just because you're reading the outside linebacker, doesn't mean you're running an outside veer.</p><p></p><p>.........................<strong>S.</strong>..............................<strong>S</strong>......................................</p><p>..................................................................................................</p><p><strong>C</strong>........................<strong>LB</strong>.........<strong>LB</strong>........................................................<strong>C</strong></p><p>..........................<strong>E</strong>.....<strong>T</strong>.........<strong>T</strong>......<strong>E</strong>......<strong>LB</strong>..........................................</p><p>WR.......................LT...LG..C..RG..RT.......................................WR</p><p>...........................A...............Q.............A...........................................</p><p>.............................................B..........................................................</p><p></p><p>If you're running triple option to the right side and you're faced with the above defensive look - where the OLB is now the <u>first guy on or outside the offensive tackle</u>, because the defensive end is inside that tackle - the QB is now reading the OLB on the dive. Still an inside veer.</p><p></p><p>Here are some outside veers. Notice the QBs steps down the line. [MEDIA=youtube]PWVkqAo-Nl4[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p></p><p>One thing we do - and did in this game - is run a double option where the BB aims to cut the defensive end, who would usually be the dive read on the triple option. </p><p>Another play we ran a few times this game is a double option where the AB will give a little shove to the defensive end and/or attack the next guy in his field of vision. </p><p></p><p>On both plays, the tackle is "veering" past the defensive end, so it looks like our traditional triple option, but it's not. On both plays, JT will stick it in the BBs gut, so he looks like he's reading a dive key...but he's not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll have to go through longestdays' BB thread to point out examples. I'll probably do that this afternoon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stylee, post: 74591, member: 882"] I don't think we ever run a true outside veer. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've never seen it. Running a true outside veer generally requires the QB to take a step or two laterally down the line, and usually our QBs are making their reads from their spot right behind the center (though they obviously open up in different ways depending on if it's midline or triple/inside veer). In an outside veer, the dive goes to the OUTSIDE of the offensive tackle, so against most defenses you're reading the outside linebacker on the dive. zhavenor is right on this point. However, just because you're reading the outside linebacker, doesn't mean you're running an outside veer. .........................[B]S.[/B]..............................[B]S[/B]...................................... .................................................................................................. [B]C[/B]........................[B]LB[/B].........[B]LB[/B]........................................................[B]C[/B] ..........................[B]E[/B].....[B]T[/B].........[B]T[/B]......[B]E[/B]......[B]LB[/B].......................................... WR.......................LT...LG..C..RG..RT.......................................WR ...........................A...............Q.............A........................................... .............................................B.......................................................... If you're running triple option to the right side and you're faced with the above defensive look - where the OLB is now the [U]first guy on or outside the offensive tackle[/U], because the defensive end is inside that tackle - the QB is now reading the OLB on the dive. Still an inside veer. Here are some outside veers. Notice the QBs steps down the line. [MEDIA=youtube]PWVkqAo-Nl4[/MEDIA] One thing we do - and did in this game - is run a double option where the BB aims to cut the defensive end, who would usually be the dive read on the triple option. Another play we ran a few times this game is a double option where the AB will give a little shove to the defensive end and/or attack the next guy in his field of vision. On both plays, the tackle is "veering" past the defensive end, so it looks like our traditional triple option, but it's not. On both plays, JT will stick it in the BBs gut, so he looks like he's reading a dive key...but he's not. I'll have to go through longestdays' BB thread to point out examples. I'll probably do that this afternoon. [/QUOTE]
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