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[RonJohn]

I have been giving to the AT fund each year for the past 10 years and the TECH fund when I buy my tickets...didn't even know about this swarm week campaign...you would think someone from GTAA would call donors to talk it up and ask for more money. Think marketing and fund raising efforts have been poor for years.

I got several emails about it. They had it on the big board today. They offered prizes for people to use social media to spread the word more.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

I wonder how many engineering majors could handle philosophy or psychology. I don't agree with the this major is harder than the other. That's relative.

OBJECTIVE courses are usually much harder than SUBJECTIVE courses, although the grading may be more difficult to get past in a subjective course, since it's usually a matter of the student acquiescing to the professors personal agenda.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

Honestly if I'm a college athlete and I get offered by GT and Stanford I'm 100% going to Stanford. GT may be a big academic name around the school and is pretty big overseas, but in the US Stanford is on another level. Not to mention you have more choices in majors besides business and engineering.

And therein lies the difference. Stanford is a UNIVERSITY, Tech is a technological institute with virtually no liberal arts programs.

 

[Tech93]

I got several emails about it. They had it on the big board today. They offered prizes for people to use social media to spread the word more.

I don't remember getting the emails but could have easily gotten and overlooked and I don't use social media, so guess I'm in the minority there. I do know from being in the money management business for 20 plus years, that you better make personal calls to raise any meaningful money.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

GT is in the middle of a major city. All these transplants from the Northeast who have no CFB team should all become GT fans. But they dont because GT is hamstrung by their own doing.

I agree with the post above that GT is going to have to loosen the academics and start being competitive that way. Consistently compete and rake in all those transplants or stay the same small alumni-centric fanbase. If the latter then be prepare to lose more sidewalk fans.

Tech can not loosen the academics, because the BOR will not allow us to, even if the Hill really wanted to. It's been that way since the 30s, and it will always be that way. Homer Rice tried harder than anyone to get it done, and the Hill surprisingly supported him, but the BOR vetoed it all. They would do the same today.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

Firing CPJ will solve nothing. Bud Peterson MUST come off some money for the GTAA for us to become competitive. CPJ has had to work with skeleton staffs, salary limitations, etc. I get the frustrations, but I don't think that firing our coach does much for us, and I don't think that closing our eyes and being proud of our academics does anything for us athletically. Tulane draws maybe 20,000 average attendance, and has a withered football program. I mentioned them because back in the day they were once a football powerhouse, but the Bud Peterson's of Tulane chose to stop funding football, and a team that competed in the SEC became a team that can't compete in the AAC.

I don't think the Hill has ever funded the AA. In fact, one of Tech's claims to fame in the 50s was building the Dome without any funding from the Hill, which actually was supposedly not allowed by the BOR anyway, even though Georgia was able to build their basketball arena in the 60s with school funding, because it was also to be used for agricultural exhibitions. Hence the often used name of "the barn" applied to the place.

 

[ATL1]

Tech can not loosen the academics, because the BOR will not allow us to, even if the Hill really wanted to. It's been that way since the 30s, and it will always be that way. Homer Rice tried harder than anyone to get it done, and the Hill surprisingly supported him, but the BOR vetoed it all. They would do the same today.

Why would anyone want to loosen academics for any sport? The mission of college is to educate.
That said you can be successful in both if there is a commitment to be successful in both.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

I disagree. Less the 300 donors for a major fundraising campaign? That is on Peterson?

GT fans are absolutely pathetic. Fire this person!!, Fire that person!!, bench the QB!!, bench the kicker!!, WTH does a soda cost $4? Why does parking cost $20? Oh, you want me to donate something? The school should just pay for that. I'm not going to donate even $10, but you had better win all of the games or I'm going on to an internet forum to ask for everyone to be fired.

It is NOT on Peterson; it is on the AD. DRad did a lot of fund raising for building projects, but not for the programs as a whole. MBob did nothing.

 

[RonJohn]

I don't think the Hill has ever funded the AA. In fact, one of Tech's claims to fame in the 50s was building the Dome without any funding from the Hill, which actually was supposedly not allowed by the BOR anyway, even though Georgia was able to build their basketball arena in the 60s with school funding, because it was also to be used for agricultural exhibitions. Hence the often used name of "the barn" applied to the place.

In 2016 GTAA got $5.3million from student fees and $2.2million from the school.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

Why would anyone want to loosen academics for any sport? The mission of college is to educate.
That said you can be successful in both if there is a commitment to be successful in both.

Agree, but the Hill is only going to be committed to academics; it's up to the AA to be committed to athletics.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

In 2016 GTAA got $5.3million from student fees and $2.2million from the school.

Student fees are indeed appropriated by the Hill, but I was not aware of the 2.2 mil additional funding.

 

[RonJohn]

Student fees are indeed appropriated by the Hill, but I was not aware of the 2.2 mil additional funding.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Lists public schools finances. If you click on GT, it will show you the revenue and expenses for 2005-2016.

 

[AlabamaBuzz]

Have you seen Lucas in practice all season? If not, you have no business making such a claim.

That is true. I was NOT claiming anything, though. Just providing some wishful thinking. I may find out he cannot throw better.

I just thought after the game got away, it would not hurt to give one of the other guys a chance. If you remember, PJ himself said we would be fine with any of them, unless he was pulling our legs.

 

[Animal02]

I don't remember getting the emails but could have easily gotten and overlooked and I don't use social media, so guess I'm in the minority there. I do know from being in the money management business for 20 plus years, that you better make personal calls to raise any meaningful money.

My wife gets yearly calls from Ohio State looking for donations.

 

[MacDaddy2]

From one of the Tech forums (I forget which)
:
Before you complain about the state of our football program, this has to be on the table. GT is 61st out of 65 Power 5 teams in football budget. Below is how our spending compares to the rest of the ACC. When the top 4 are spending basically double or more than we are, it's no wonder we are falling behind. If you want things to change, take it to the GTAA, not the football office.

Florida State (No.2): $42.46 million
Notre Dame* (No. 4): $38.97 million
Clemson (No. 10): $34.67 million
Virginia Tech (No. 16): $31.15 million
Miami (No. 25): $28.47 million
Duke (No. 36): $23.47 million
North Carolina (No. 37): $23.46 million
Louisville (No. 38): $23.43 million
Syracuse (No. 39): $23.22 million
Pittsburgh (No. 40): $23.13 million
Boston College (No. 48): $21.35 million
Virginia (No. 51): $20.33 million
NC State (No. 54): $19.19 million
Georgia Tech (No. 61): $17.38 million
Wake Forest (No. 63): $16.61 million

Could someone please post a link to this? I would actually love to see it

 

[wvGT11]

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Lists public schools finances. If you click on GT, it will show you the revenue and expenses for 2005-2016.

Its pretty interesting to see this list, a lot of schools are paying much more than us and getting a lot less I feel like. $17 million roughly for 2014 to get an Orange Bowl win is not bad.
I feel like the schools mentality is just that though. The fact that other schools are paying more than us and getting the same or worse results doesn't help.

 

[grandpa jacket]

are actually trying to play Big Boy college football with real college students? Not many. Perspective.

Then we should drop down a division and quit playing Ugag, at least play in a setting we can compete in.

 

[RonJohn]

Then we should drop down a division and quit playing Ugag, at least play in a setting we can compete in.

Looks pretty competitive to me. Especially with real college students and the second lowest football budget(half the budget of the teams above us)

 

[4shotB]

I don't remember getting the emails but could have easily gotten and overlooked and I don't use social media, so guess I'm in the minority there. I do know from being in the money management business for 20 plus years, that you better make personal calls to raise any meaningful money.

Another missing piece of GT's fundraising efforts aside from communication is lack of strategic planning. I think there are some (myself included) that would donate more IF I understand how the money was going to be used. If Tstan/GTAA had a strategic plan that said here is where we are now, here is where we are going, I need X dollars to do this or that, etc.I think there are many of us who would rally around that type of vision and leadership. In other words, sell me on why my investment will generate more return. In my mind, asking for money without this type of underlying communication makes me feel as if I am spending on more of the same ol' same ol'. That is worrisome to me. Tstan, give me reasons (aside from emotional attachment to dear ol' alma mater) to give you my money. Convince me to invest in your company.

"A guy doesn't walk on the lot unless he wants to buy. We are sitting out here waiting to give you our money. Are you going to take it? Are you man enough to take it? What's the problem, pal?" to steal from one of the greatest movie scenes ever. All joking aside, I think there would be higher response rate if people had a sense of how the money was going to be spent and that it linked to a sound strategic plan.

 

[Milwaukee]

Another missing piece of GT's fundraising efforts aside from communication is lack of strategic planning. I think there are some (myself included) that would donate more IF I understand how the money was going to be used. If Tstan/GTAA had a strategic plan that said here is where we are now, here is where we are going, I need X dollars to do this or that, etc.I think there are many of us who would rally around that type of vision and leadership. In other words, sell me on why my investment will generate more return. In my mind, asking for money without this type of underlying communication makes me feel as if I am spending on more of the same ol' same ol'. That is worrisome to me. Tstan, give me reasons (aside from emotional attachment to dear ol' alma mater) to give you my money. Convince me to invest in your company.

"A guy doesn't walk on the lot unless he wants to buy. We are sitting out here waiting to give you our money. Are you going to take it? Are you man enough to take it? What's the problem, pal?" to steal from one of the greatest movie scenes ever. All joking aside, I think there would be higher response rate if people had a sense of how the money was going to be spent and that it linked to a sound strategic plan.

I drove an 80 thousand dollar BMW to get here tonight, you drove here in a Hyundai. That's. My. Name.