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  1. Animal02

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    They are not concentration camps....,.,..you have no credibility repeating baseless lib talking points.

    And you have no proof of mistreatment.
     
  2. awbuzz

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    You gave platitude that you would gladly do so. You did not stipulate that it had to be easy. I guess maybe you weren't as serious as you let on to be.

    Let there be no doubt that the situation along our southern border is sad and ridiculous.

    We've had over a half million people caught so far this calendar year. That doesn't include those that have made it through without being caught.

    Until we protect the border better we are continuing to dig ourselves a hole that we cannot pay the bill for...

    Let's be real, most of the people who are crossing are doing so for economic reasons not for asylum. We, the United States, pay to get them shelter food and medical attention. It is unfortunate that some have died while being detained. I but promise those that died during detainment in the United States would have died sooner if in Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala etc. Regardless, it is a sad situation.
     
  3. ramblinwreckguru

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    Did that bill contain border funding only for the poor illegals?
     
  4. gtpi

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    another animal? who knew there were 2!

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/28/us/charlottesville-car-attacker-sentencing/index.html

    same folks that one poster claimed are looting robing and raping people took this young man into their sanctuary. talked to him about jesus.... and for that he shot them in the back of the head and said 'im not sorry'. even a conservative rag such as the post found this to be a heinous crime.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.252d404c4f45
     
  5. gtpi

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    antifa has nothing on the far religious right winger pro lifers with their bombings. arson. murders.

    the conservative bill of rights these days....

    1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
    2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
    3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
    4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
    domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
    5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
    6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
    7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
    8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
    9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
    10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
    11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
    12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
    13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
    14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
     
  6. Supersizethatorder-mutt

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    Most of that reflects an incredible amount of naivete and is grossly exaggerated and misdirected at least in part. But the last two clauses are perfect illustrations of what the dimocrat party is guilty of.
     
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    I’m sure she’d love that. She’s got people to clean her house, mow her lawn, trim her bushes & later in the day go out into the field and pick her grapes. I thought only Southern Democrats loved their plantations, but I guess they like them out west also.
     
  8. Animal02

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    And of course wrecks and other brain dead libs think the influx of low skilled workers had no impact on the low end of the wage scale.:rolleyes:
     
  9. LibertyTurns

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    Wow, I agree with a ton of what your carefully typed. Bravo, sir!
    1. Our flag is a symbol of how bad our country sucks. You need a roomate in Venzuela?
    2. I agree we should subsidize human trafficking particularly of young females, but murderers, drug traffickers, etc could also be valuable contributors to our communities by exercising some natural selection over the weak. It helps cull the herd & has the added benefit of keeping those types out of our neighborhoods.
    3. Absolutely we need to unify against model citizens like racist radicals beating down the opposition or using whatever means they can. Most importantly they allow us to promote destructive policies subjugating our population under our rule. They need us if we can keep the threat alive.
    4. Yes we need to eradicate the military as those deplorables counteract our efforts to glamorize Hollywood deviants, etc in how to engage in the most vile anti-social & personally destructive behaviors.
    5. Absolutely, the more divorce we can have the better particularly in minority families so their kids stay stuck in the cycle of poverty & dependent on us. Abort those minority babies too because nothing makes you sleep soundly at night more than eliminating a minority baby before it’s born. They really aren't wanted, right?
    6. I too have noticed an unacceptable rise in people being able to speak their minds. Please, we need to get everyone on message. Watch CNN, get the talking points & don’t let the other side have any 1st amendment rights. The Constitution was written by a bunch of out of touch white guys anyway and needs to be modernized.
    7. 9-11 we all know was a charade pulled off by Bush to steal Arab oil. It was filmed in Area 51. 18 years later people are still buying that BS, really?
    8. See #6, just add in the religious zealots we all despise. We should just seize all the churches under eminent domain & kick them bastards to the curb.
    9. Yes the proletariat need to rise up. Damn those nasty corporations for giving people jobs, making advancements in technology & medicine. Let’s make being incorporated illegal & make the illegals legal!
    10. Everybody knows you don’t need people to run a company. Replace all those whiners with robots.
    11. Damn Conservative academics, I know there’s only a couple of them, but we need to take them out wherever they exist. Us academic elites know what’s best for everyone & everyone else should do what we tell them.
    12. I’m not sure why we even have laws. If my neighbor is pissing me off I should be able to just kill him. Maybe I could just take his stuff or rape his wife? Government always gets in the way & wants to put criminals in jail. That in itself should be criminal. It prevents my freedom & that isn’t right.
    13. Again, you nailed it. If government owned everything & just gave you what you needed you wouldn’t have these rich bastards running around. We’d all just be poor & happy.
    14. Lastly, there’s no more fundamental right than being able to vote as many times as you want. It’s literally a central tenet of our Constitution.

    Keep up the great work Comrade!
     
  10. Supersizethatorder-mutt

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    So tell us please how religion and government were intertwined in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia (and yes, communism is a form of fascism too). Communism is totally atheistic, and Naziism was all about Hitler; he was their god. Both the Nazis and the Communists rejected all kinds of religion and punished those who disagreed or continued to "cling" to their religion. It is true that in Argentina under the Peron's, the Roman Catholic Church was USED, but the government was in charge of the church; the church had nothing to say about the government, other than to allow the believers to be led astray because of the corruption within the hierarchy of the church. In countries threatened with fascism, the true believers have always rejected the philosophy of a centralized and all-powerful government (as well as any corrupt church organization). Believers within the US want, almost without exception, the government to stay out of our religious lives, and, in fact, out of our personal lives altogether. Believers do not want the government or any para-governmental organization to tell us what we can or cannot do, what we must support, or whom we must accept. So no, Christians are not fascist, nor do we accept fascism in any form as the government that we want.
     
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  11. bwelbo

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    The Washington Post is a leftist paper. Dylan Roof wasn’t a conservative. So you fail twice LOL.

    But yea, his attack was pure evil. 15,000 people marched behind a Black Lives Matter guy over our big bridge here after that attack.

    You want a lesson in Jesus - research how those victims’ families treated Roof afterwards.
     
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  14. Animal02

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    I do think it is comical that our uneducated lib thinks that the influx of millions of undocumented illegal aliens will have no impact on wages at the bottom of the scale.......especially with so many working for cash.
     
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    These threads always become our version of Branson Reese and his smooth skin shark
     
  17. Technut1990

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    Its about following the law. The entire immigration issue is a law issue, liberals want to act like there are no immigration rules and cons are terrible people for thinking there are. In the mean time Liberals openly support gangs of thugs beating and robbing people in the streets by holding the police back and verbally defending their right to "assemble and speak". You are a liberal and yes your political party and ideals are responsible for lawlessness as observed in Portland and other cities where the city leaders openly hold the police back from enforcement as they actually equate violent assembly with free speech. You Liberals seem confused as to who has rights and who dosen't. You constantly call out cons for being bad people -- as you did for these workers WRITING terrible thoughts about illegal immigrants, yet no words of condemnation for the actual violence the groups that you defend, commit.

    Your allowance for actual violence while you yell about written words is what my response referred to. Illegal Immigration which is ILLEGAL and Antifa's mass assaults are both supported by your party and since your party has no problem calling out cons stupidity I figured you might say something, just a little about your parties insistence that nobody has to follow the law. As I HAVE SAID BEFORE, Liberals are the poison that will kill our country, you openly support debauchery and lawlessness as you condemn lawful requirements. Its a theme with ya'll if it's illegal support it.
     
  18. WreckinGT

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    So you have decided that I personally want people to die and I am a fan of violence, ignoring that I have condemned it multiple times. I didn't realize I was such a horrible person so I will ask again, what would you like for me to do now? Should I get a gun and go around the country shooting everyone with a mask on? Should I stage a fake Nazi rally so that Antifa shows up and we can exterminate them? What is my course of action to correct the wrongs I have committed by only condemning them when I apparently should have done much more? How can I redeem the atrocities I have committed?
     
  19. Technut1990

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    Looks like a typical communist propaganda poster. Conservative ? Did you forget Obama was in office 8 years in which he bombed, deported and colluded with the insurance industry to MAKE you buy their product ?

    blind loyalty to liberal/communist ideals.

    Interesting that you mention limitless police activities and power. As local Portland cops are required to stand idly by and watch masked thugs loot, rob and beat people for disagreeing with their political viewpoint Obama was using the secret police powers to spy on the other party AS Hillary was paying the Russian for info on the other party. You must have forgotten that when you were typing up the "Conservative Bill or Rights" Obama must be a conservative huh ?
     
  20. WreckinGT

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    Also, a note to anyone who wants to post something political in the Lounge. No matter what topic you want to discuss, the thread will be about AOC and Antifa within a couple of pages. I apologize for that but that is really the only things Republicans are capable of talking about these days.
     

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