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Chase Roberts Update
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Thanks for the link. Great inspirational account of how to move on and take Option B at GT. **** happens and you just have to respond. Chase has.
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Thanks for posting. It's a great story about a young man who is planning on staying the course. I hope that he is seen as a role model by the others players, both the veterans & rookies, as to what is important and what could be lost in an instant.
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Recruits for GT and other places should look at the teams history of "protecting/preserving" the SA's scholarship if they are hurt and cannot play anymore. Hope GT uses this as an example of what happens here if you get hurt.
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Good wishes Chase... I am so glad you are still getting a Tech degree.
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Chase is a solid young man with a great future ahead of him.
I have a question for the experts in the forum. Say Chase has complications from this injury after he's left Gt, does he receive any assistance dealing with said complications or is he on his on?
I assume his medical bills were claimed against his parents insurance plan so who pays the out standing balances; do collectors come after him, his parents, or GT?
I have a question for the experts in the forum. Say Chase has complications from this injury after he's left Gt, does he receive any assistance dealing with said complications or is he on his on?
I assume his medical bills were claimed against his parents insurance plan so who pays the out standing balances; do collectors come after him, his parents, or GT?
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70Jacket, his injuries are likely on GT's insurance.
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I believe that after GT he is on his own for medical insurance. Getting medical insurance after graduation is one of the principal concerns for forcing the NCAA to provide more benefits. See http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/18/us/northwestern-unionization-attempt/
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Thanks for the link. I'm sure this particular question has been hashed over in the past. It appears, on the surface, that AA's are secondary coverage and only engage after parental coverage is exhausted; out standing medical balances would then be a parental or player obligation unless the AA steps in to cover the shortfall, players from families with no medical insurance are covered in whole by AA policy, hopefully.
The LOI I don't believe is a waiver (play at your own risk) but is a release of obligation on the part of the AA in the event of medical obligations that extend beyond a players eligibility, if said player can't get coverage for pre existing conditions as a result of participation said player is basically screwed.
Let's say a regular student gets injured in a chem lab accident and suffers a life long handicap as a result, is the regular student subject to the same coverage as the SA that gets injured durning athletic participation? I don't believe it's the same coverage and the regular student has rights to sue for damages and support.
I don't know if you have knowledge in this area but you tend to be one of the more imtelectual posters on this forum.
I do know if you were injured in the line of duty the VA is an lifetime available option for assistance. Minus lethal weapons college football is a very hazardous activity and life long injuries do result.
I guess what I'm really asking the forum is; should a portion of the billions of dollars produced annually for networks, corporations, sponsors, and conferences by these athletes be reserved to support athletes that suffer injuries with life long implications.
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I think most people on this board would support some form of continuing medical coverage for injuries suffered playing football. With the insurance premiums paid for by NCAA / schools / Athletic Associations. There was a lot of discussion in this thread http://gtswarm.com/threads/northwestern-univ-players-can-unionize.2178/
Life long injuries do result. The two CFB players I know the best (both scout team players at VT and GT) have either concussion problems or knee problems. They are on their own for medical. The GT player has a good job so he has medical coverage. The VT player went back to school and is working to be an exercise therapist and I don't know his insurance status. But he didn't have insurance for a while when he went past 26 on his fathers plan. It is a problem.
Life long injuries do result. The two CFB players I know the best (both scout team players at VT and GT) have either concussion problems or knee problems. They are on their own for medical. The GT player has a good job so he has medical coverage. The VT player went back to school and is working to be an exercise therapist and I don't know his insurance status. But he didn't have insurance for a while when he went past 26 on his fathers plan. It is a problem.
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As the Nuke points out, until he's 26 he's covered under his parents insurance, if that's how they choose to handle it. The ACA provides for that.
Still, that doesn't get the NCAA off the hook, imho. Chase got hurt as a scholarship athlete during an NCAA sanctioned sporting event. There's no question in my mind that his injury should be covered by NCAA / AA insurance for life.
It is too bad that this misfortune befell him. He was a quality OL and I think he would have started for the rest of his career. But … it is only a game and when your physical health is threatened by it, you stop playing. What I like is that he has obviously decided to make his situation an opportunity rather then something to mope about. Good luck and thanks from all of us, Chase!
Still, that doesn't get the NCAA off the hook, imho. Chase got hurt as a scholarship athlete during an NCAA sanctioned sporting event. There's no question in my mind that his injury should be covered by NCAA / AA insurance for life.
It is too bad that this misfortune befell him. He was a quality OL and I think he would have started for the rest of his career. But … it is only a game and when your physical health is threatened by it, you stop playing. What I like is that he has obviously decided to make his situation an opportunity rather then something to mope about. Good luck and thanks from all of us, Chase!
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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...es-head-injury-lawsuit-create-70-million-fund
Sounds like its between Chase and Tech to settle any long term cost incurred from head injuries.
Sounds like its between Chase and Tech to settle any long term cost incurred from head injuries.
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How is an injury a sport's team's responsibility more than the player's? Players today are not ignorant of the inherent dangers in sport.
While I think that it's a good idea for teams to provide coverage for their players, I don't think there's some kind of ethical mandate. Participating in sport is a voluntary activity.
While I think that it's a good idea for teams to provide coverage for their players, I don't think there's some kind of ethical mandate. Participating in sport is a voluntary activity.
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When looking at the totality of the liability, the medical costs are a minor part of the "cost". The other part of the "cost" which is borne only by the afflicted person is the sleepless nights, the discomfort from the injury during the day and the limit on physical activities. I'm not proposing that the "pain and suffering" be covered, only the medical expenses. For anyone who has undergone "physical therapy" after an injury, the practitioners would have done very well in medieval Europe during the Reformation.
So for my ethics (which is subjective and not objective), providing medical care is appropriate since the SA still bears the brunt of the "cost".
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Is agree and I'm so tired of the socialism. If GT wants to provide health benefits then that is a great charitable thing to do but they should not HAVE to. The players are getting a free ride to a world class school. I was a big kid and was decent at football through middle school but I got hit awkwardly a couple of times and probably got a concussion, so I decided I didn't want to deal with that and I quit after that season. My decision. These guys love the game but this isn't the hunger games. No one is forcing them to play. Be a software engineer and sit in a cubicle all day if you don't want to take the chance of getting injured. You'll still make a lot of money and you sit in a comfy chair all day. Jeez what happened to freedom and capitalism.
That being said, chase sounds like a great guy and I hope he has a very successful career. I appreciate his hard work for the team and I hope he does well for the rest of his time at tech and on.
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Well, if everyone was responsible and ponied up for the consequences of their actions, we wouldn't even need laws, now would we? But … they aren't and they don't.
Tech, like every major athletic institution, is doing pretty well out of the athletes, if not in terms of money, then in terms of prestige and student recruitment. If they don't take it in hand to do something about injuries incurred in activities they sponsor and profit from then some kind of collective decision has to be made to insure that they do. This is like child labor; I bet Tech would be glad to extend insurance coverage, just like most Div 1 schools would. We're not talking about ogres here. But … until everyone does it, you are ceding a competitive advantage to those who decide to not provide it. So nobody gets off the dime.
I'm not sure how "socialism" and "freedom" got into a discussion about basic business responsibilities. Because that's what this is.
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Fans and the players together create the system that we have. The argument that the players create all of this revenue for schools is ludicrous. WE the fans create the revenue. Yes the players are what we go to see but without the players or the fans non of this works the way that it does. It's socialist when you force a company or institution (these players are employees according to many evidently) to give benefits that they don't have to give. That's how it got integrated into the discussion. Good for chase and I hope he does well. I'll try to stay on topic now.