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  1. GTRambler

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  2. Technut1990

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    This is a lot like the media. The post is true but no context at all.

    First of all every president gets the luxury of having his own justice Dept. Lawyers so Yates and Bharara are just shift changes and Yates my end up involved in the leak investigation.

    Several of these others served until they themselves decided to go and two or 3 were in reality totally ineffective and should have gone.

    One just left b/c the liberals picked him to blame for a serial child rapist being that even though half the upper echelon of the Democratic Party hung out with him, including the biggest hero of the party BC.

    Sanders and Rosenstien personally took major abuse for doing their jobs, Comey is Comey and McCabe looks like he will be charged with leaking and lying (like Comey should be), both are hold overs from previous administrations.

    Easy to make this list b/c it’s true in fact, ut it totally lacks context. Each one of these people have their own stories. Some Trump ran off some he didn’t.
     
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    great response!!
     
  4. jayparr

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    Watch Scandal on netflix! The deep state is just like it!!!
     
  5. WreckinGT

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    Trump has now lost or fired 13 cabinet members. At this point in the Obama administration, none had left. At this point in the Bush administration, none had left. Like Trump says, a well oiled machine.
     
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    Womp womp
     
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  7. jayparr

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    The obama and bush administration were very scandalous! Obama's had NO regards for the justice systems! Read Killing The Deep State a great read!
     
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    Obama and Bush suffered fools....Trump doesn't.
     
  9. WreckinGT

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    Maybe the real fool is the one hiring all of these other fools.
     
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  10. jayparr

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    Just watch Scandal! the real story is just like it!!!!! And that is the truth!!!!
     
  11. bwelbo

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    Good for him. Finally some accountability.
     
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    But wait, "I only pick the best people."
     
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    LOL...yeah, I hear ya.

    However, what @bwelbo said is correct, many of them were disloyal bureaucrats who Trump drummed out (deservedly so, imho) and a bunch more were run out of town by the vigorous opposition by Democrats (Acosta being the latest example, and unfairly tarred and feathered from what I can tell).

    All this list really proves is that politics has become more cut-throat in recent years. Blaming Trump alone for that is short-sighted and partisan imho. The "media" and social media can take a ton of the credit for this disturbing trend in politics.
     
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    Do you trust Trump to hire someone who can do the job? Because so far Trump has been pretty awful in that regard.
     
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    I don't have to trust Trump, because I don't vote for him. Do you know how many millions of people work in the federal government and can't do the job? Better to fire them and move on. Its not like he's asking people sit in their office and watch TV. He's got high demands of them on positions that have often less than 50% support. It ain't easy for sure.
     
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    If the people who work for you are hired and fired at a pretty continuous rate then that is poor hiring and poor leadership. There is no way to sugarcoat that. There is no real evidence that he will get it right the second/third time around. He is bad at this.
     
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    Well your post shows a general lack of understanding of the process. Tons of these people were carryovers from previous administrations. Many others only agreed to work for a year or two. And hiring someone for a government position when you don't want the typical idiot who just sits there and surfs porn is unique. There aren't many people out there at all that have resumes where they actually accomplished things in government and were leaders at cabinet levels. But the bottom line is there are two options (and lets assume Trump hasn't been the best at hiring the right people):
    1) Keep looking for the right person.
    2) Give up and quit.

    I mean, that's basically it. So the people complaining about turnover really have nothing better to do. We all know you'd prefer that Trump just gave up and quit, but he's not going to do that.
     
  20. WreckinGT

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    How many of Trumps cabinet members who have left or were fired were carryovers from the previous administration?
     

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