Castellanos quits BC

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A former Alabama player described the cultural shift in college athletics. He said you used to play for the school, the traditions, being part of something bigger than yourself.

Today, it’s all about self. Money and playing time. That’s it.

No news there. That is the way we have morphed in much of our country.

No longer Honor, Duty, Country. If you believe and act that way you are a loser by some peoples world view. So I'm now a loser, but f them.
 

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I think Castellanos simply speeded up the process. O'Brian has always preferred pro-style, drop-back QBs. This, to say the least, is not the way Castellanos plays. He was probably going to transfer out anyway. Now he is on the market for sure.

I also agree that such fits of pique are bad for college sports (and the pros won't put up with them at all) and that Castellanos shouldn't have abruptly quit the team. Something similar happened at Tech with Jeff Sims refusing to substitute during a game. It doesn't help the young man's rep and it doesn't help his attractiveness as a transfer. But … some tema will take him, build their O around him, and succeed; he's that good.
 

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Not a good look, but don't let the coach off the hook completely. We don't know what was done/said.

Jeff sims?

As I mentioned in another thread, some players don't like Bill O'Brien. It was a concern here when we looked for a replacement for TFG. Tom Brady wanted him gone from New England. He was unpopular at Houston.

He also seems to want a different style of QB than Castellanos. It could be a combination of writing on the wall and being unhappy with the coaching change.
 

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I think Castellanos simply speeded up the process. O'Brian has always preferred pro-style, drop-back QBs. This, to say the least, is not the way Castellanos plays. He was probably going to transfer out anyway. Now he is on the market for sure.

I also agree that such fits of pique are bad for college sports (and the pros won't put up with them at all) and that Castellanos shouldn't have abruptly quit the team. Something similar happened at Tech with Jeff Sims refusing to substitute during a game. It doesn't help the young man's rep and it doesn't help his attractiveness as a transfer. But … some tema will take him, build their O around him, and succeed; he's that good.
TTP,
Actually as with most situations in life (even the pros), folks will put up with crap from players/people if they are GOOD ENOUGH/VALUABLE so that they ignore the pique and let them away with it.How many pro holdouts were there this yr then got what they wanted.?
 

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As I mentioned in another thread, some players don't like Bill O'Brien. It was a concern here when we looked for a replacement for TFG. Tom Brady wanted him gone from New England. He was unpopular at Houston.

He also seems to want a different style of QB than Castellanos. It could be a combination of writing on the wall and being unhappy with the coaching change.

I believe this was a player being run off more than a player "quitting on his team" but that's jmho.
 

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As I mentioned in another thread, some players don't like Bill O'Brien. It was a concern here when we looked for a replacement for TFG. Tom Brady wanted him gone from New England. He was unpopular at Houston.

He also seems to want a different style of QB than Castellanos. It could be a combination of writing on the wall and being unhappy with the coaching change.
My understanding from reading around, between, and through the lines including some other boards and articles is that they had brought in the transfer QB, James, who fit BOB’s style more closely and then he got hurt I guess pretty early on. now that James is healthy as soon as Castellanos struggled they pulled him in favor of James.

Not sure if that’s accurate but it’s just a summary of what I both read and think of what I read.
 

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My understanding from reading around, between, and through the lines including some other boards and articles is that they had brought in the transfer QB, James, who fit BOB’s style more closely and then he got hurt I guess pretty early on. now that James is healthy as soon as Castellanos struggled they pulled him in favor of James.

Not sure if that’s accurate but it’s just a summary of what I both read and think of what I read.
I’m also not saying some players aren’t mercenary. I don’t think that’s entirely the case with Castellanos—he was getting paid at BC, but I think he might have been able to get more elsewhere (before).

Sluka (UNLV) is clear cut.
 

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Bill O'Brien's winning personality strikes again....

He was in my top 3 for replacing Collins. His demeanor and sometimes off putting ego are part of what you get when you hire O'Brien. The question is whether he'll win enough for fans and admins to put up with it. Don't let the recent Saban 180 fool you, Saban was the same way. Saban just won a LOT of games and put a LOT of players in the League so players and admins accepted it.
 

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Bill O'Brien's winning personality strikes again....

He was in my top 3 for replacing Collins. His demeanor and sometimes off putting ego are part of what you get when you hire O'Brien. The question is whether he'll win enough for fans and admins to put up with it. Don't let the recent Saban 180 fool you, Saban was the same way. Saban just won a LOT of games and put a LOT of players in the League so players and admins accepted it.
Just learned something, did not know that about Saban. Like many on here I did spend some time with Billy O, was not loaded with charisma.
 

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I’m also not saying some players aren’t mercenary. I don’t think that’s entirely the case with Castellanos—he was getting paid at BC, but I think he might have been able to get more elsewhere (before).

Sluka (UNLV) is clear cut.
Completely agree.
 

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A former Alabama player described the cultural shift in college athletics. He said you used to play for the school, the traditions, being part of something bigger than yourself.

Today, it’s all about self. Money and playing time. That’s it.
I won't say it's ONLY about self. There's still plenty of athletes with the right mindset, we've been blessed to have a bunch.

Dontae Smith, Dylan Leonard, Leo Blackburn, Horace Lockett, Jordan Williams, to name a few.
 
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