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<blockquote data-quote="Whiskey_Clear" data-source="post: 290830" data-attributes="member: 735"><p>How many nuclear engineers should we graduate to return to those 7 countries? Only a little tongue in cheek there.</p><p></p><p>Where was all this concern when O'bama enacted the very same ban? Hypocrisy much?</p><p></p><p>Where shall the outrage be directed if open borders allow terrorists unfettered access to launch attacks here at home? Why the outrage for attempting to limit this possibility? It's honestly a small measure to mitigate such attacks but is better than nothing. It's also not a permanent ban so the hysteria in opposition is a bit laughable. </p><p></p><p>Do you not see the possible dangers this would create? Do you think the majority of people from those countries are friendly to America in general? If you think all Somalis should be granted free entry into our country I invite you to read the book Blackhawk Down. That read will grant you a little insight into a large portion of the makeup of that society. Not as good as my Delta buddy's first hand accounts but pretty good nonetheless. Does that mean no Somalis should be granted visas? No. But we should try and be as damn careful as possible when granting them.</p><p></p><p>On another note, regarding immigration. When did all of the peoples of the world earn the right to come here? Whether to become citizens, visit family, or just see the sights as tourists? I'm not saying we should ban any of that but when did any of it become their right? </p><p></p><p>Once upon a time immigrants wishing to become citizens had to prove they could add value to our country with a skill or a trade. Why is that no longer a worthy endeavor? Why should an immigrant wishing to come here for welfare be granted equal access to entry compared to someone with a skill, trade, or expertise in a needed / high value field? Where is the logic in that?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whiskey_Clear, post: 290830, member: 735"] How many nuclear engineers should we graduate to return to those 7 countries? Only a little tongue in cheek there. Where was all this concern when O'bama enacted the very same ban? Hypocrisy much? Where shall the outrage be directed if open borders allow terrorists unfettered access to launch attacks here at home? Why the outrage for attempting to limit this possibility? It's honestly a small measure to mitigate such attacks but is better than nothing. It's also not a permanent ban so the hysteria in opposition is a bit laughable. Do you not see the possible dangers this would create? Do you think the majority of people from those countries are friendly to America in general? If you think all Somalis should be granted free entry into our country I invite you to read the book Blackhawk Down. That read will grant you a little insight into a large portion of the makeup of that society. Not as good as my Delta buddy's first hand accounts but pretty good nonetheless. Does that mean no Somalis should be granted visas? No. But we should try and be as damn careful as possible when granting them. On another note, regarding immigration. When did all of the peoples of the world earn the right to come here? Whether to become citizens, visit family, or just see the sights as tourists? I'm not saying we should ban any of that but when did any of it become their right? Once upon a time immigrants wishing to become citizens had to prove they could add value to our country with a skill or a trade. Why is that no longer a worthy endeavor? Why should an immigrant wishing to come here for welfare be granted equal access to entry compared to someone with a skill, trade, or expertise in a needed / high value field? Where is the logic in that? [/QUOTE]
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