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<blockquote data-quote="IEEEWreck" data-source="post: 25845" data-attributes="member: 617"><p>This is all kinds of wrong. Kennesaw State is not a community college. Getting through undergrad does not require being smart. This is an important point for how these athletes are getting screwed, so let's go back again:</p><p></p><p>Getting through undergrad does not require being smart.</p><p></p><p>It takes time and effort. Barring substantial learning disabilities of certain kinds, you just don't have to be that bright. Engineering (or Quantum Mechanics, or DifEQ's) isn't intrinsically any harder to learn than algebra. It seems that way to some because it takes several thousand hours of work on prerequisite subjects. Being really smart might help you take less time, but the only thing you need to pass with at least a C on any undergrad program is enough time and effort. As a student athlete, you are basically dragged by the collar into making those investments. </p><p></p><p>I think GT's program is concrete evidence of this. What it means, and this should make you want to vomit, is that those players are sliding into ignorance because <u>their programs do not care about whether they are educated</u>. Hell, especially at big football schools you could get 30 student/alumni volunteers per player to follow them around and make sure they go to class and study halls. Reading at a college level is not out of reach for anyone. The fact that many athletes come from racially, economically, and socially disadvantaged backgrounds does not give us a free pass to screw them because getting screwed by us is marginally better than getting screwed by the streets.</p><p></p><p>And I really can't stand the undertones of 'well, those (heavily implied: black) athletes are just dumb as a rock. It's in their nature to be lazy and foolish, so any time they get to play football is a boon we bestow on them. Clan revival's happening in Athens (just like always) so you'd better get going if you want to use slavery apologist arguments to justify college football. (Note: not calling out posters here, that's directed towards CFB fans as a whole).</p><p></p><p>There is a deleterious culture of non-academics across football. It's that very culture that hurts GT in recruiting year after year. That problem has very complex roots that involve a nexus of class and race, state educational institutions, and colleges. Maybe AD's and HC's can't correct for the fact that your highschool passed you for playing football because it's really your only shot, etc. etc. <u>But they do control the culture of their program and their locker room</u>. If their players do not value hard work in class like in the weight room and practice field, it is the culture they create and allow that is at fault. </p><p></p><p>I'll say this: no one in a Georgia Tech athletic program is being taken advantage of in that way. Any school that cannot boast the same ought hang their heads in shame.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IEEEWreck, post: 25845, member: 617"] This is all kinds of wrong. Kennesaw State is not a community college. Getting through undergrad does not require being smart. This is an important point for how these athletes are getting screwed, so let's go back again: Getting through undergrad does not require being smart. It takes time and effort. Barring substantial learning disabilities of certain kinds, you just don't have to be that bright. Engineering (or Quantum Mechanics, or DifEQ's) isn't intrinsically any harder to learn than algebra. It seems that way to some because it takes several thousand hours of work on prerequisite subjects. Being really smart might help you take less time, but the only thing you need to pass with at least a C on any undergrad program is enough time and effort. As a student athlete, you are basically dragged by the collar into making those investments. I think GT's program is concrete evidence of this. What it means, and this should make you want to vomit, is that those players are sliding into ignorance because [U]their programs do not care about whether they are educated[/U]. Hell, especially at big football schools you could get 30 student/alumni volunteers per player to follow them around and make sure they go to class and study halls. Reading at a college level is not out of reach for anyone. The fact that many athletes come from racially, economically, and socially disadvantaged backgrounds does not give us a free pass to screw them because getting screwed by us is marginally better than getting screwed by the streets. And I really can't stand the undertones of 'well, those (heavily implied: black) athletes are just dumb as a rock. It's in their nature to be lazy and foolish, so any time they get to play football is a boon we bestow on them. Clan revival's happening in Athens (just like always) so you'd better get going if you want to use slavery apologist arguments to justify college football. (Note: not calling out posters here, that's directed towards CFB fans as a whole). There is a deleterious culture of non-academics across football. It's that very culture that hurts GT in recruiting year after year. That problem has very complex roots that involve a nexus of class and race, state educational institutions, and colleges. Maybe AD's and HC's can't correct for the fact that your highschool passed you for playing football because it's really your only shot, etc. etc. [U]But they do control the culture of their program and their locker room[/U]. If their players do not value hard work in class like in the weight room and practice field, it is the culture they create and allow that is at fault. I'll say this: no one in a Georgia Tech athletic program is being taken advantage of in that way. Any school that cannot boast the same ought hang their heads in shame. [/QUOTE]
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