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<blockquote data-quote="IEEEWreck" data-source="post: 31595" data-attributes="member: 617"><p>Full disclosure: I'm a EE and Econ double major, so I have very little interest in politics and a nerd's devotion to technical correctness. But yeah, no- unions in the US remained fundamentally committed to capitalist structures. Socialist political views were only ever a minority (actually strongest in the NE and the deep south, believe it or not) and more or less reached their high water mark in the 1930's. By the 50's people with socialist views were expelled from the few positions they had in unions, notably from the AFL-CIO. </p><p></p><p>And... yeah. In many ways US unions started down a path to decline when they focused on getting increasingly bureaucratic working rules and elaborate pension systems. That would be while their socialist union counterparts in Great Britain focused on output control of nationalized industries.</p><p></p><p>So yeah, unless you feel consistent in saying 'those bastions of socialism in the US: auto manufacturing and baseball' you have to apply some sort of analysis to what the union's goals and composition is. In this case, the things that greater bargaining power could bring players (consistent medical care beyond their use to the team, less restrictive conditions for scholarships, and longer terms for offers, at least immediately) seem like things that would benefit the sport as a whole and decrease the penalty Tech pays for having integrity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IEEEWreck, post: 31595, member: 617"] Full disclosure: I'm a EE and Econ double major, so I have very little interest in politics and a nerd's devotion to technical correctness. But yeah, no- unions in the US remained fundamentally committed to capitalist structures. Socialist political views were only ever a minority (actually strongest in the NE and the deep south, believe it or not) and more or less reached their high water mark in the 1930's. By the 50's people with socialist views were expelled from the few positions they had in unions, notably from the AFL-CIO. And... yeah. In many ways US unions started down a path to decline when they focused on getting increasingly bureaucratic working rules and elaborate pension systems. That would be while their socialist union counterparts in Great Britain focused on output control of nationalized industries. So yeah, unless you feel consistent in saying 'those bastions of socialism in the US: auto manufacturing and baseball' you have to apply some sort of analysis to what the union's goals and composition is. In this case, the things that greater bargaining power could bring players (consistent medical care beyond their use to the team, less restrictive conditions for scholarships, and longer terms for offers, at least immediately) seem like things that would benefit the sport as a whole and decrease the penalty Tech pays for having integrity. [/QUOTE]
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