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<blockquote data-quote="GTNavyNuke" data-source="post: 47834" data-attributes="member: 322"><p><strong>I agree that the best we can expect if we replace CPJ is get someone like another Ross or O'Leary and have a few really good (top 20 seasons). </strong> Ross and O'Leary are the model for developing a successful program and then moving on. But when Ross left we had a big drop off with Lewis. Then when O'Leary left, we got Gailey who was almost as good.</p><p></p><p>The third case was Dodd, who left the program to Carson which was a significant decline. So in two of the three recent cases (excludes Heisman and Alexander), the program has deteriorated significantly when the good coach leaves.</p><p></p><p>Dodd almost left GT to go to Texas. In 1956, Texas was after him big time and he almost took the job and then regretted not taking the job. On page 197 of the book "Dodd's Luck", "Bobby Dodd, meanwhile, remained at Georgia Tech. Almost immediately, Dodd regretted the decision. "If Texas", he said, " had offered me that job about a year or two later - which they probably wouldn't have because of my record - I'd a probably gone to Texas or any other real well-known football school.""</p><p></p><p>For all coaches except possibly one like CPJ, we are an intermediate destination to the pinnacle of coaching. I think that the recruiting challenges at GT make this nothing more than a stepping stone for anyone other than a CPJ type who isn't the smooth PR type but more a purely functional type of coach. (At some point, I'll post more about recruiting challenges all the way back to Dodd, but I don't want to thread jack my own discussion.)</p><p></p><p><strong>After thinking about this for the past few months, I like our chances with CPJ best. </strong> It's not where I started out, but where I have ended up after looking at the records over time. But CPJ only has a year or two to produce otherwise the lack of enthusiasm will drive him out. We all hope he succeeds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GTNavyNuke, post: 47834, member: 322"] [B]I agree that the best we can expect if we replace CPJ is get someone like another Ross or O'Leary and have a few really good (top 20 seasons). [/B] Ross and O'Leary are the model for developing a successful program and then moving on. But when Ross left we had a big drop off with Lewis. Then when O'Leary left, we got Gailey who was almost as good. The third case was Dodd, who left the program to Carson which was a significant decline. So in two of the three recent cases (excludes Heisman and Alexander), the program has deteriorated significantly when the good coach leaves. Dodd almost left GT to go to Texas. In 1956, Texas was after him big time and he almost took the job and then regretted not taking the job. On page 197 of the book "Dodd's Luck", "Bobby Dodd, meanwhile, remained at Georgia Tech. Almost immediately, Dodd regretted the decision. "If Texas", he said, " had offered me that job about a year or two later - which they probably wouldn't have because of my record - I'd a probably gone to Texas or any other real well-known football school."" For all coaches except possibly one like CPJ, we are an intermediate destination to the pinnacle of coaching. I think that the recruiting challenges at GT make this nothing more than a stepping stone for anyone other than a CPJ type who isn't the smooth PR type but more a purely functional type of coach. (At some point, I'll post more about recruiting challenges all the way back to Dodd, but I don't want to thread jack my own discussion.) [B]After thinking about this for the past few months, I like our chances with CPJ best. [/B] It's not where I started out, but where I have ended up after looking at the records over time. But CPJ only has a year or two to produce otherwise the lack of enthusiasm will drive him out. We all hope he succeeds. [/QUOTE]
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