#36 program of the last 40 years

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It’s just a guy with his own model. I would move us up a good bit, and I think we deserve the 1990 title solo (no sharing with Colorado)

Of interest, our two worst years are 1994 (L****) and 1987 (Ross). The next three worst years of the last 40 are Collins.

Some of our better years were under O’Leary and Johnson

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Mid 30's is where I would rank us over the time frame post Dodd. We can move up and we will. Historically, we are one of the most tradition rich programs of all times. Top 5 in that respect. I know youngsters don't pay attention to history much so most of them would disregard that history.

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Blaming all of 2019-2021 on Collins shows how little a lot of fans know about college football generally and this program specifically.

I'd say the mistake started with hiring Paul Johnson, but we are all entitled to our opinions. With his hiring, our athletic board proved what Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma and others learned 30 years earlier--you can't recruit effectively when you run an option offense.

It's easy to blame Collins with a shallow analysis looking only at the record, but he didn't recruit those guys. Just like Johnson's only two back to back winning FBS seasons--he didn't recruit those guys.

Collins wasn't the guy, but he walked into a terrible situation between the lack of appropriate talent on offense, the lack of talent on defense, and the lack of money to hire assistants.
 

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Blaming all of 2019-2021 on Collins shows how little a lot of fans know about college football generally and this program specifically.

I'd say the mistake started with hiring Paul Johnson, but we are all entitled to our opinions. With his hiring, our athletic board proved what Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma and others learned 30 years earlier--you can't recruit effectively when you run an option offense.

It's easy to blame Collins with a shallow analysis looking only at the record, but he didn't recruit those guys. Just like Johnson's only two back to back winning FBS seasons--he didn't recruit those guys.

Collins wasn't the guy, but he walked into a terrible situation between the lack of appropriate talent on offense, the lack of talent on defense, and the lack of money to hire assistants.
When you're in charge, you get the glory and you get the blame. Don't want to abide by that, don't become a coach.
 

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Blaming all of 2019-2021 on Collins shows how little a lot of fans know about college football generally and this program specifically.

I'd say the mistake started with hiring Paul Johnson, but we are all entitled to our opinions. With his hiring, our athletic board proved what Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma and others learned 30 years earlier--you can't recruit effectively when you run an option offense.

It's easy to blame Collins with a shallow analysis looking only at the record, but he didn't recruit those guys. Just like Johnson's only two back to back winning FBS seasons--he didn't recruit those guys.

Collins wasn't the guy, but he walked into a terrible situation between the lack of appropriate talent on offense, the lack of talent on defense, and the lack of money to hire assistants.
I agree with you on both points. However, CPJ reached a point of coaching past his expiration date, IMO. He had some success- not as much as many wanted- but we were in the mix in the conference for most years. Collins however, could never even establish a hint of an upward trajectory. The hype train got old real fast, with fans and players. My guess is he tried to micro manage his way out of it- like other HC disasters have done- and Cabrera thankfully pulled the plug.
TFG had obviously risen to the level of his incompetence. IMO, CBK is set up much better for success, with the complete alignment of Cabrera , Batt and himself , and he has surrounded himself with coaches and analysts with experience whose advice he will seek and implement.
 

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Blaming all of 2019-2021 on Collins shows how little a lot of fans know about college football generally and this program specifically.

I'd say the mistake started with hiring Paul Johnson, but we are all entitled to our opinions. With his hiring, our athletic board proved what Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma and others learned 30 years earlier--you can't recruit effectively when you run an option offense.

It's easy to blame Collins with a shallow analysis looking only at the record, but he didn't recruit those guys. Just like Johnson's only two back to back winning FBS seasons--he didn't recruit those guys.

Collins wasn't the guy, but he walked into a terrible situation between the lack of appropriate talent on offense, the lack of talent on defense, and the lack of money to hire assistants.
Ok geoff.
 

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Was expecting top 30, but TFG really hurt us, as did the OP's rating of CU as the national Champs of 1990.

This. As I've pointed out many times before, there's no way for an algorithm trying to tackle all the CFB teams to reconcile a 5th down sort of event. If they did, Colorado would be a lot lower on the list than us. But IIWII.
 

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I think the issues are the teams around us got better (particularly Clemson and lately UGA), had much bigger stadiums which led to larger athletic budgets, lack of donations to our program which also contributed to revenue issues and the change that college football really became a feeder for the NFL (so student athletes became NFL athletes in waiting) which contributed to concerns about the difficulty of our academics (real or not that clearly is the perception). As College Football became a huge business which dramatically accelerated in the last 25 years, we have struggled to have the revenue and fan base to compete. Georgia Tech's best days were prior to pro sports coming to Atlanta when we used to be the only game in town. Clearly coaches make a difference but reality is coaches succeeding at Georgia Tech have a lot more obstacles.
 
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