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senoiajacket said:
Karma for VT for the dodging they did in Basketball. Hopefully the Karma comes around for Pitt too.
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Baseball is not basketball. If they let win percentage and not wins decide the order here too, they’re incredibly stupid.

And we’ve said it before, that NC State series is looking good!
 

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FredJacket said:
Prepare yourself... almost certain it is winning percentage.
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Pitt is ahead of only 2 of the 7 coastal teams by wins...but in first place because of win percentage. Maybe it will be like basketball and they’ll get coach of the year too LOL.

Half of the entire conference is within 1 win. Letting teams duck games and gain advantage from it is stupid.
 

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Squints said:
AFAIK every sport that doesn't use a point system for its standings uses winning percentage to determine the order of its participants.
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Yea and normally that’s fine. But when you have missed games due to cancelations like we do now, it shouldn’t be that way IMHO. Baseball is played outside where players have about a zero risk of exposure from another player...and where the roster is large enough to where there are always enough players to field a team.
 

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SnidelyWhiplash said:
Yea and normally that’s fine. But when you have missed games due to cancelations like we do now, it shouldn’t be that way IMHO. Baseball is played outside where players have about a zero risk of exposure from another player...and where the roster is large enough to where there are always enough players to field a team.
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Here's a prime illustration of what I mean - Louisville at 14-6 is ranked ahead of Notre Dame at 18-8. Their win percentage is 0.700 compared to 0.692. Freaking 4 more wins, but ranked below. Its obnoxious to me.

Anyway, we have Clemson (11-12), at Miami (14-2), and North Carolina (14-13) left. Being that we're 15-12 and better on paper than all of them, I should say a 2-1, 2-1, 2-1 finish would be desirable and not impossible. A 2-1, 1-2, 2-1 finish is highly possible. That's either a 21-15 ACC finish or 20-16 finish.

The Pitt Duckers play the 2 worst teams in the entire ACC plus NC State as their final 3. So its going to be hard to win the Coastal with them having ducked Louisville. So a 'good' finish means something like a 4th place finish in the ACC. The challenge is that there are 5 teams in the ACC with 14 or 15 wins. Miami and North Carolina are two of them, so winning those series would do wonders for head to head tie breakers. The third is Virginia Tech, whom we have the tie breaker over, and then there's Florida State, who has the tiebreaker over us. Florida finishes at Notre Dame, Clemson, at NC State. Brutal.

Long story short, a lot left to play for, and we can have a very high finish in the conference.
 

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SnidelyWhiplash said:
Here's a prime illustration of what I mean - Louisville at 14-6 is ranked ahead of Notre Dame at 18-8. Their win percentage is 0.700 compared to 0.692. Freaking 4 more wins, but ranked below. Its obnoxious to me.

Anyway, we have Clemson (11-12), at Miami (14-2), and North Carolina (14-13) left. Being that we're 15-12 and better on paper than all of them, I should say a 2-1, 2-1, 2-1 finish would be desirable and not impossible. A 2-1, 1-2, 2-1 finish is highly possible. That's either a 21-15 ACC finish or 20-16 finish.

The Pitt Duckers play the 2 worst teams in the entire ACC plus NC State as their final 3. So its going to be hard to win the Coastal with them having ducked Louisville. So a 'good' finish means something like a 4th place finish in the ACC. The challenge is that there are 5 teams in the ACC with 14 or 15 wins. Miami and North Carolina are two of them, so winning those series would do wonders for head to head tie breakers. The third is Virginia Tech, whom we have the tie breaker over, and then there's Florida State, who has the tiebreaker over us. Florida finishes at Notre Dame, Clemson, at NC State. Brutal.

Long story short, a lot left to play for, and we can have a very high finish in the conference.
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We had our chance against Pitt, and pissed it way. Gave up 11 runs in the last 3 innings to lose 11-9. If Pitt finishes ahead of us, WE will be the primary culprit.
 
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ACC Action Weekend #10 (of 13)

Limited conference series for the next 3 weeks as some teams take weekends off or play out of conference:

Conference Series
*UVA (11-16) at *Va Tech (15-12): Go Wahoos... although a UVA sweep suddenly puts them with 1 win of Ga Tech.
*Miami (14-12) at BC (6-18): Go Eagles!
*UNC (14-13) at ND (18-8): Go Irish!
Louisville (14-6) at Clemson (12-12)
NC State (12-12) at Wake (6-17)

Out of Conf/Not Playing
Ga Tech v KSU
FSU v Troy
Pitt - Cancelled (still in Covid timeout)
Duke - OFF

Interesting for Ga Tech this weekend... opportunity to "move up" if UVA, BC, and ND win series.

The ACC standings are very tight. There are probably 10-11 teams (right now) who could get going and end up as a Top 4 seed for the ACC tourney. You really want to be a top 4 seed going into the tournament. The ACC tournament format requires seeds #5-#12 to win BOTH pool play round robin games to advance to semi-finals. If you are seeded 1-4... the scenario where all 3 teams in your pool go 1-1 ... means you )as the top seed in your pool) "win" the pool and advance.
 
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I'm looking at the standings, and seeing Notre Dame, Louisville, Pittsburgh, and Virginia Tech as the top 2 teams in each division. When did the ACC acquiesce to the Big East in Baseball???

Come on Jackets! Finish this off!
 
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Cincy, we're back in #2. Hopefully another win today will help the cause.
I guess Louisville isn't making up their missed games. 22 to our 27
Wake (25), Duke (24), Pitt(24),

Did we miss games or did others just play more?
How'd they (VT, UNC, UVA, etc.) get to 29 ?

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eokerholm said:
Cincy, we're back in #2. Hopefully another win today will help the cause.
I guess Louisville isn't making up their missed games. 22 to our 27
Wake (25), Duke (24), Pitt(24),

Did we miss games or did others just play more?
How'd they (VT, UNC, UVA, etc.) get to 29 ?

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We're playing out of conference this weekend. Others have ooc or off weekends coming up. Everyone was scheduled to play 36 ACC games. Not all will be played due to weather & covid cancelations.
 
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Assuming no further cancelations... here are ACC games played (at seasons end) by team:
Pitt 33 (missed 3x Louisville)
Ga Tech 36
Va Tech 36
Miami 35 (missed 1x WF)
UNC 36
UVA 36
Duke 33 (missed 3x NC State)

ND 35
Louisville 32
FSU 36
Clemson 36
NCST 33
Wake 32
BC 33
 

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LibertyTurns said:
Pitt still playing Covid lottery until they have a top spot in the ACC tourney cemented? The old VT basketball move.
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VT was one of the most overrated teams in the country this year, but that strategy got them a good seed on the tournament and coach of the year when they didn’t deserve either. Their NET rating was #8 in the ACC and #51 overall. They shouldn’t have gotten into the tournament at all and their coach should have finished like 6th in voting. So if Pitt sees that, they might as well be like why not try?
 
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