Compare records and coaches over the 119 years, especially when they just take over the program. It takes time!
List of Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets football seasons - Wikipedia
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Compare records and coaches over the 119 years, especially when they just take over the program. It takes time!
List of Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets football seasons - Wikipedia
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Usually it does. That said, the great coaches like Heisman, Dodd, O'Leary, and Johnson begin to make a difference almost immediately. We will see if Coach Collins approach with an emphasis on recruiting works.
I would not wish to break established protocols . Of course, we could follow precedence established by a school 70 miles outside Atlanta, and not include any seasons we don't like by presenting any excuse that satisfies us.No no no please don’t bring actual evidence to the table.
I forgot about him. He was already a great coach at Maryland. "College football begins and ends with recruiting" Oh? The coaching landscape is full of coaches that were great recruiters and little else. Coach Johnson accomplished a lot during his time here. Last time we won a Orange Bowl was during the Dodd years over a half century ago. That was after the two years you mentioned. He did about as well as expected. Recruiting by itself will not build this program but it is job one especially recruiting linemen.So Bobby Ross is not a great coach because his first two years were bad, but Paul Johnson--who went 53-53 (FBS) over his last nine years at Tech---is a great coach because his first two years were good?
I am not following that logic. I'll quote Urban Meyer again: College football begins and ends with recruiting. Coach Johnson proved the difference that recruiting makes by his record the first two years and his record the last nine years (on average). He didn't forget how to coach, he just didn't have the talent. And what he left behind was worse than that, and here we are.....
Depends on the state of the program they take over.Usually it does. That said, the great coaches like Heisman, Dodd, O'Leary, and Johnson begin to make a difference almost immediately. We will see if Coach Collins approach with an emphasis on recruiting works.
So Bobby Ross is not a great coach because his first two years were bad, but Paul Johnson--who went 53-53 (FBS) over his last nine years at Tech---is a great coach because his first two years were good?
I am not following that logic. I'll quote Urban Meyer again: College football begins and ends with recruiting. Coach Johnson proved the difference that recruiting makes by his record the first two years and his record the last nine years (on average). He didn't forget how to coach, he just didn't have the talent. And what he left behind was worse than that, and here we are.....
Depends on the state of the program they take over.
GT President Pettit was...well nearly unexplainable if you weren’t there when he was.Well, Alexander did not do Coach Dodd any favors. Tech was in pretty bad shape when Dodd took over in 1945 and within a few years they were playing in the Orange Bowl. Unfortunately, Coach Ross stepped into such a mess that he later said had he known it was so bad he would never have come to Tech. Coach O'Leary took over for the "one whose name shall not be mentioned" which tells you what he was facing. Collins faces a challenge every bit as much as any of them but does have the luxury of a supportive AD and a commitment to better facilities and such. Personally, the coach who had the worst situation was none of these guys but Bill Curry.
GT President Pettit was...well nearly unexplainable if you weren’t there when he was.
I believe Curry did have Homer Rice as AD—who was possibly our best AD.
What Homer and Coach Curry did in just a few short years was nothing short of miraculous. The absolute worst Division 1 facilities in the nation, an administration that was unrelentingly hostile to athletics and in particular football. There was actually talk of "deemphasizing football or doing away with it entirely" There were even problems with our uniforms and Curry faced a divided alumni base because of the Pepper fall out. You would have to go back about 40 years to the end of Alexander's time to find the athletic program in such disarray. Coach Collins has challenges to be sure but compared to that he has a walk in the park.GT President Pettit was...well nearly unexplainable if you weren’t there when he was.
I believe Curry did have Homer Rice as AD—who was possibly our best AD.
Sounds like a very rough time to be around GT athletics or be a GT athlete in general..... Tech snobs are the worstWhat Homer and Coach Curry did in just a few short years was nothing short of miraculous. The absolute worst Division 1 facilities in the nation, an administration that was unrelentingly hostile to athletics and in particular football. There was actually talk of "deemphasizing football or doing away with it entirely" There were even problems with our uniforms and Curry faced a divided alumni base because of the Pepper fall out. You would have to go back about 40 years to the end of Alexander's time to find the athletic program in such disarray. Coach Collins has challenges to be sure but compared to that he has a walk in the park.