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Then Liberty should be considered. 13-0.

The lack of agreement on an objective criteria makes this impossible to discuss to anyone's satisfaction.

I just looked at the record for all conferences for the Top Four teams in non conference games and all are undefeated. I suppose the new criteria is Performance by Conferences against ranked non conference games? That will take longer.

I am not referring to the performance of individual games. If we are going to compare “conferences”, let’s look at the total performance of the conference. Here is the performance of each conference in play this year against ranked opponents: ACC played 37 games against ranked opponents with a...

It's my opinion that the ACC is a weak conference this year. And you are welcome to think otherwise.

Think what you want. Does that help? The top four ACC teams beat the 4th best SEC team. The mind boggles at the implications of ACC superiority.

I’m not advocating for or against CFP. FSU played a weak schedule. Period. If you believe FSU played a Top Ten schedule, support your claim with facts. Not emotion.

The four BEST ACC teams went 6-4 against at best, the 5Th best SEC team. Hardly conclusive. FSU’s SOS was pathetic. I’m done with this silly argument.

Maybe. Undefeated over who? Louisville? I'm indifferent as I have no control over the process. It's an interesting conundrum. Like people watching...

Didn’t Auburn get left out, 2004 … 13-0 and SEC Champion? It’s not like it hasn’t happened before…

It’s pointless to convince anyone of anything here. Opinions run strong and deep both ways. We are people. We think, therefore we am. Whats funny is earlier this year, many on this board were telling FSU to FSU-off. Now, they are saints. Ok, fine. I just got off the phone with my FSU brother...

There are five conferences. Four spots. Somebody is getting left out. FSU has a long history of weak schedules. I don’t really care if Alabama or FSU got in the “made for tv” playoff … but FSU aren’t saints. They didn’t want to join the SEC because it was too tough (per Bobby Bowden), and...

Interesting take from Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports: “It wasn’t though, mainly because the system that was set up back when these players were in elementary school didn’t account for — or care about — what played out in 2023. The people who designed a four-team playoff back then really didn’t want...

It makes no difference to the money. Obviously fans and athletes will be disappointed but … if what I posted is accurate (and I’m not privy to the inner workings of the CFP), the CFP sold a narrative of a “national championship“, when in fact, no such thing exists.

The Athletic reported that the SEC (not Alabama per se) was concerned about getting left out should Alabama win and lobbied hard 3-4 days prior to Saturday that an SEC team (either Georgia or Alabama) should be in the playoff. Having said that, it does not appear that it was a foregone...

PITTSBURGH -- The NCAA is ready to enact major changes to how college athletics are operated and create some artificial divisions between who is considered the elite and who is not. Where the Pitt Panthers would fall in the sport's new order is unclear. According to a report from Ross...

Because conferences have a conference schedule to determine a champion. But if you want to claim “conference x is better than conference y” … you should at least talk about comparable teams. It’s a different discussion and one I’m done with.

So what? You can’t even claim “outperform“. The top 4 teams of the ACC went 6-4 against SEC teams where the best team they played was 5th in the conference. Technically accurate but not conclusive. Yeah. I’m done.

Winning conference matchups is meaningless unless it the top vs the top. The ACC went 6-4 and the best team they beat was the 5th best SEC team. I just don’t see that as anything great but others do. Fine.

Including two crappy wins. Including 2 wins that hardly demonstrates dominance. But keep singing the tune.